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March 5th, 2013

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3 Signs She’s Making A False Rape Accusation

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False rape claims distort the pursuit of justice and ruin the lives of innocent men. I want both men and women to know the signs of a false rape so that men can protect themselves and women can avoid looking like a liar if they were legitimately raped.

So let’s get to it. After many years of reading and hearing about various rape cases that were eventually dismissed, I started to notice patterns surrounding false rape accusations. While not any one of these tests are conclusive, if you see two or more of the signs below, your bullshit alarm should be going off.

1. Virtually no evidence of struggle

Contrary to what a lot of feminists claim, girls fight back when someone is trying to put an unwanted object in their vagina. Perhaps the most frustrating form of last-minute resistance known to man is having a naked girl on your bed who refuses to open her legs. How is a man supposed to rape her short of beating her down and tying her up?

Feminist response: “But what if the attacker has a knife/gun/(insert weapon here)?”

Unless the victim was approached in complete isolation, the attacker is going to have a very hard time sneaking in a weapon without being noticed in most public places, let alone raping her in public. And if a woman was raped in isolation, like some kind of back alley, then this test doesn’t apply because she is a true victim.

Feminist response: “But what if she goes over to his house, or he goes over to her house?”

This brings us to our next point…

2. The attacker is invited to the victim’s house OR the victim willingly went to the attacker’s house

Put yourself in a criminal’s shoes. If you wanted to rape a woman and get away with it, why would you rape a woman who invited you over? The evidence is already stacked against you should anything happen to her. The police would know for certain that you were in the same residence as her.

It is for this reason that a woman who claims to have been raped in her own house by a man she knew beforehand is a suspicious claim, since a man looking to rape someone would not pick a target who could identify him to the police.

This is especially true in our digital age – cell phones have GPS tracking systems, cars have GPS chips built in, and if someone so much as accesses the internet at a residence in any way a record is created – so the risk of being caught for any crime rises dramatically when in a personal residence. It would be impossible to create an alibi of being somewhere else.

The same is true for a man raping a woman he invited over to his house: why would he do such an act, knowing he could not deny being in the same residence with her? It doesn’t make sense.

Feminist response: “But according to all the statistics, most women are raped by men they know!”

This brings us to the final, and most obvious sign…

 3. Authorities are alerted days, weeks, or even months after the rape

If your car is robbed, do you wait a few weeks before telling the police? If your house burns down, do you wait a few months before making a claim?

I often hear women do not report rapes right away because they are ashamed or humiliated to report that it ever happened. This is pure bullshit because any rape victim working with the police can request to have their identity hidden from the press, and both the police and press must honor such requests under penalty of law.

The most likely reason a woman waits to file rape charges is because she herself doesn’t know how she feels about the sex she had – “Oh, he was cute but I was really drunk…” – and needs to convince herself she was somehow wronged.

But, in the real world, it’s easy to see when you’re wronged. Things like being raped aren’t ambiguous. The only reason women wait to report a rape is because they are unsure of how to spin a convincing story, or because pangs of guilt prevent them from doing so. Ultimately, when women make a false rape charge it’s to avoid admitting the man she slept with was a mistake.

Thus if a woman says she was “date raped” by a man she already known, and he had her at knife or gun point, ask yourself: How long did she wait to report the crime? Anything less than 36 hours and I would become suspicious.

Applying the tests

Try it for yourself. Go review some famous false-rape charges, such as the ones levied against Dominique Strauss-Khan, Julian Assange, or the Duke lacrosse players. You’ll see in all cases unharmed women who were properly on the same premises as the attacker, and, in the case of Assange, women who took their sweet time to file some charges.

When he was later interviewed by police in Stockholm, Assange agreed that he had had sex with Miss A but said he did not tear the condom, and that he was not aware that it had been torn. He told police that he had continued to sleep in Miss A’s bed for the following week and she had never mentioned a torn condom.

I lived with my rapist for a week?

After looking at false rape reports, be sure to look at an actual rape case:

Lucas arrived Saturday at the doorman building with a pizza for a customer on the 10th floor. Once his work was done, the teen allegedly found his way to the victim’s unlocked door down the hall.

“He goes through the building opening doors,” said the victim, a modeling agent, as she wiped away tears. “There I am with my daughter sleeping. And he rapes me with my daughter right next to me?”

The rape occurred inside a bedroom filled with dozens of porcelain and plastic dolls belonging to the little girl. Cops said the attacker tried to muzzle the victim’s cries by putting his hand over her mouth.

“It seemed fake,” said the victim, who said she woke up a little disoriented to find Lucas already on top of her. “I opened my eyes. I said, ‘Get off. What are you doing?’ I was hysterical.”

Lucas was tracked down by police through the building doorman, who let him inside, and the customer, who steered them to the pizza shop.

As you can see the above case, an actual rape involves strangers, trespassing, and intense signs of struggle. While the three tests aren’t 100% accurate, since nothing can be known with complete certainty, these indicators will be right more often than not.

So learn the difference, and end the abuse of our justice system.

Read More: How To Avoid A False Rape Accusation



About the Author

is a player philosopher psychologist who enjoys a good discussion. His column runs every Tuesday. You can follow him on Twitter.

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  • Chris

    Fix your headline!

    • Roosh_V

      Yeah that was my fault. Fixed. :)

  • P Ray

    It’s “Anna Ardin”, not Miss A.
    It’s “Sofia Wilen”, not Miss S.
    Why are they trying to be trendy and mysterious, aka Mr. X?

  • David

    you missed an obvious one: the alleged victim is fat and/or ugly.

    • Samseau

      I’ve heard this one a lot. If she’s fat or ugly, she couldn’t have been raped.

      But I didn’t include this for one reason: I’ve been accused of rape from a woman who was thin, and a 6 out of 10. She was older, in her early 30′s, so when she was 21 she was probably a 7.5 or 8 out of 10.

      Thus I believe it is unfair to assess the credibility of the witness based on her appearance, since men will be more likely to trust the rape claims of hot women over ugly ones. The reality is, it doesn’t matter how hot she is, because false rape can be used by any woman to get power over a man.

      My uncle also had his life destroyed by a false rape accusation from a woman who was quite hot.

      So while it may be true that fat/ugly women are most likely full of shit, it does not mean that just because she’s hot she isn’t full of it either.

      To avoid this confusion, I did not include the fat/ugly criterion in the article.

      • vallab

        I agree 100%

      • Jopette

        So…how many times have you been accused of rape?

    • http://twitter.com/alexstrain Alexandra Strain

      Almost half rape victims are under the age of 18. 15% are under the age of 12. Guys, rape isn’t about sex or some loser who was just so horny he couldn’t stop. Men also rape other men, boys and as someone else stated women can also be rapists. Although, more frequently it’s a male committing the violence.

      • Ross

        Majority of children are raped by women predators.

      • Jopette

        Not true. Sexual assault against a child is committed by a woman approximately 20% of the time. It’s committed by a man approximately 80% of the time.

        http://www.csom.org/pubs/mythsfacts.pdf

      • http://www.facebook.com/gaffaliciouslygreatness David Adrian

        Do you count willing “statuatory rape” (molestation) in with that, or only real rape? If you did, I’d be shocked at how few underage sex arrests there are compared to how many rapes and molestations in total..

    • http://www.facebook.com/gaffaliciouslygreatness David Adrian

      “you missed an obvious one: the alleged victim is fat and/or ugly.” I think this one is fair game if the accused doesn’t have a history of spontaneous sexual encounters with women that aren’t really good looking. On its own, I can’t really see using it as more than a “less chance”-argument.

    • http://www.facebook.com/gaffaliciouslygreatness David Adrian

      The “argument from spoiled kids lie more often” might lead you to think hot women are more likely to lie more often though.. we shall have to consult statistics.

  • Norok

    I take it that this comes on the heels of the Jordan Johnson acquittal. I remember last week the case was all in the news as he took the stand. There was NOTHING of his acquittal on my news feed since Friday. I had to search for it to find a short NYT piece that left out all of the evidence against the false accusation but did not fail to repeat the false accuser’s claims.

  • Anonymous

    Real rape victims also wait a long time to “alert” anyone generally. I know impersonally of two for which it took years. Some never do.

    Don’t underestimate the effect of rape on woman (and I’m a man).

    Now the question becomes : how does one protects against such claims ?

    Only thing I’ve found so far, which can become important if you’re rich/famous : record everything. Either videotape it, or record the audio.

    Not that I do this, but…any other ideas ?

    • Roosh_V

      You’ll never find a false rape accuser that was thin and above a 6. Only go after cute girls and you’ll be straight.

      Going after fatties is like eating McDonalds. It’s cheap and convenient right now but you’ll pay for it later.

      • Samseau

        Someday I will share my experience of being falsely accused of rape by a woman who was thin and (almost) above a 6,

      • Sombro

        The false rape accusers who *are* thin and above a 6 have mental issues. Trust me — they are out there.

    • Samseau

      “Real rape victims also wait a long time to “alert” anyone generally. I know impersonally of two for which it took years. Some never do.”

      Did you see the girls get raped or do you only know hearsay?

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.loo.273 John Loo

        Sometimes saying you’ve been raped can be a good thing in the feminist society. You get your status elevated.

      • Anonymous

        I dated one. She was re-living her rape in her sleep every night. That would be too much acting just to play the victim ;)

        Oh and I meant “personnally” of course

    • Eric_D_Read

      Recorded evidence can be a good idea. It was probably the only thing that saved the Hofstra guys who were falsely accused by some skank with a case of Regretrape. http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/p/lamb-to-slaughter-hofstra-false-rape.html

      But you might want to check the applicable laws in your state/country first.

  • J. Flores

    I hate to say this, but rape is such an awful crime in the first place because of how men often perceive women (madonna/whore complex) and the fact that men don’t want to be put into a cuckholding situation especially where inheritance of legacy and property are concerned.

    Rape in the purest sense is not like theft and it is not like assault or battery. A woman may or may not choose to struggle too much, and still technically be raped. She may fear the struggle and simply submit, and so on.

    A woman who has been raped but not battered, reflects upon the rape and realizes that she has not been physically harmed nor deprived of resources (money, valuables, etc.)

    She may have even enjoyed parts of it. This makes the entire concept of rape difficult to define entirely.

    Rape as a ‘crime’ seems more connected to a man’s need to know that his children are his than it is to any actual physical, financial, or psychological harm upon the woman.

    Whereas our reactions to theft and assault are natural and serve also an evolutionary purpose, I would gander to say that some or even a large part of our reaction to rape is a product of social conditioning.

    Feminism makes a big deal about rape precisely because feminism is a continuation of male dispensability and gender roles, as practiced for centuries, as usual.

    The concept of victimhood (or similarly, oppression) is abstract. One is perpetually a victim or oppressed if they ‘feel’ victimized or oppressed. This should not be confused with the concept of exploitation, which is actually being short-changed in objective and quantifiable ways.

    Rape is also very much connected to racism and classism. The US is a ‘rape paranoid’ culture precisely because of the increasing class polarity (keep poor guys away from the daughters of rich guys) and the essentially unresolved race dynamics: keep the blacks and latinos away from the white women.

    I’m so glad I moved Serbia (where the women are hotter than Croatians, I suspect Roosh has a thing for blondes, I do not), where it is not a ‘rape paranoid’ culture. Lately there has been a rash of violent assault-rapes here (about 4 in the past month) by what is suspected to be the same perp. He actually wears a mask and lurks in underground parking lots and basements. That’s a rapist. Not the relatively decent guy asking a woman out for for the evening.

    • Ross

      Dude, women rape. You are assuming only men are capable of rape. Get a clue.

      • Brian

        1% of rapists are women. Tell me again how pertinent your observation is.

      • Ross

        Majority of children are RAPED by WOMEN! >:I That’s not 1 percent, dude. You’re just making up numbers now. >:I

      • Jopette

        This is simply not true. http://www.csom.org/pubs/mythsfacts.pdf

        Page 4.

      • Ross

        I read page 4. What it does NOT include is the majority of CHILDREN are raped by FEMALES! It also does not include the gender bias when a MALE reports his assailant was a FEMALE! All you have to do is see how they report these 30+ year old women raping boys. They call it “Love affair” instead of what it actually is, “RAPE” AND “PEDOPHILIA!” >:I

        http://www.breakingthescience.org/SimplifiedDataFromDHHS.php

      • Jopette

        Mothers are more likely to physically abuse or neglect their children (single-parent households tend to have a female parent,) but males are more likely to engage in sexual offenses against any child, including their own. Rape is distinct from general child abuse. Pay attention.

        “Studies indicate that females commit approximately 20% of sex offenses against children (ATSA, 1996). Males commit the majority of sex offenses but females commit some, particularly against children.”

      • Ross

        FEMALE PEDOPHILE! >:I Get your FACTS straight! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCpr3hr0K30

    • jee

      pussy

  • El Guapo

    I’ve seen women who “weren’t sure” if they were raped, too. Banging flakes = dangerous fun.

    • http://www.facebook.com/gaffaliciouslygreatness David Adrian

      I’ve seen women who were sure they weren’t raped, and went on to be boyfriends with their “rapist”, who were told they were raped by organizations like SPLC.

      It isn’t always dishonesty when they don’t know if rape means forcible rape or drunk sex or what..

  • Sferrari17

    Dude, this is bad….you’re way off the mark on this one.

    First, rapists rarely, if ever, think logically about the consequences of their actions.

    “Put yourself in a criminal’s shoes. If you wanted to rape a woman and get away with it, why would you rape a woman who invited you over? The evidence is already stacked against you should anything happen to her.”

    Rape is not typically premeditated but more spur-of-the-moment. And it WILL often be someone who knows the victim – in a moment of anger, the rapist make a horrible decision w/o considering the obvious repercussions.

    Second, you’re last point is completely baseless. Imagine that you were at a party, got drunk, and passed out. The next day you find out that some ugly chick snuck in and had sex with you while you were barely conscious. There would be no sign of a struggle, for starters. More importantly, would you really go to the police right away – or ever? Sure, you would feel violated, but you would also be embarrassed and try to just forget that about the whole thing.

    Now, imagine that instead of an ugly chick, it was a dude who raped you. How likely would you be to run to the authorities then? I know that I would be sick to my stomach with shame – it would take me at least a week or two just to accept the fact that it had really happened. Even then, I might decide not to go to the authorities because I just want to bury and repress the episode. Then, months later, when I realize I CAN’T get rid of pain, I decide to seek the police then and find some closure.

    And that ignores the exponentially greater emotional trauma that happens during a violent rape where the victim is conscious through-out and will have nightmares about the experience for the rest of their life.

    This post shows a startling lack of empathy and understanding. Neither rapists nor rape victims tend to think or act logically during or after the act – expecting them to, and believing that acting illogically is usually a sign of lying, is stupidity, plain and simple.

    • Roosh_V

      I agree. Samseau is showing a startling lack of empathy and understanding for the mens lives who were ruined by women and their rape lies.

    • Samseau

      “The next day you find out that some ugly chick snuck in and had sex with you while you were barely conscious.”

      That’s not rape. I don’t buy into the bullshit that drunken sex = rape. Just because alcohol makes it easy to be taken advantage of, doesn’t mean you got raped.

      If I’m drunk and I go to McDonalds and buy a ton of crappy food when I’m blacked out, and I regret eating that food the next day, does it mean I can go to the police and say McDonalds stole from me?

      Additionally, the idea that laws and policies should be made around drugs like alcohol is laughable, and a true sign of American decadence. People shouldn’t be drinking and getting obliterated all the time in the first place.

    • Samseau

      “First, rapists rarely, if ever, think logically about the consequences of their actions.”

      And you are drinking some strong kool-aid if you believe this. No criminal believes he will be caught before he performs the crime.

      • jimmy conway

        Criminals generally have a low IQ and high time preference.

  • Muktar Bin Laden

    Stop feeling sympathy for real rape victims. Women and men in the public don’t give a fuck about sexually violated men in prison or the sexually abused boys of single mothers. Also, women routinely grope men by their genitals at bars or even at a supermarket line. If the roles were reversed and men were to start groping women in public the media would start screaming about rape culture and the gropers would be charged as RAPISTS. Women even KNOW they are immune from punishment for any sex crime they commit.

    Here’s an example of the hypocrisy: Watch this video of Justin Beiber being groped and sexually violated by a dirty old hag right there in front of the cameras http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaQ10aWQ6V8

    Do you think an old man could do the same thing to an 18 year old girl celebrity and not have his career destroyed, his freedom taken away and the media would label him a RAPIST.

    It’s time to hold cunts accountable for their hypocrisy and lack of care for men and stop feeling sorry for these pampered sob story victims.

    • sway

      Agreed. A fat girl grabbed my dick through my jeans at the bar last weekend. If things really were equal, I would have smacked her, 10 white knights would have smacked her, and the police would have been called and she would have been thrown out of the bar and arrested.

      What did I do? Laughed and told her “you wish”.

    • http://twitter.com/RedPillWoman Red Pill Woman

      What? I watched the whole video…it’s his mom…all she did was hug him and yeah I think an 18 year-old’s dad could do that. LOL is this trolling?

      EDIT: sorry, just saw your new post but you can edit your posts. You’re asking for equality in this one area though, you can’t pick and choose like that.

    • Kizmet

      Pampered? Have you ever suffered from sexual assault? You shouldn’t denigrate the victims when you have no idea what they are going through. Sexual assault messes people up for years. As a child abuse victim, I’m so deeply offended and disturbed that you think its acceptable to shame the victim and not hold a higher standard of decency to the people who do this. Rape and sexual assault/abuse/harrassment is unacceptable period, no matter who does it. And there should be consequences

      There should be empathy and understanding for all victims of sexual abuse and assault. Whether they be men, women, transgender- sexual assault is a crime and incredible damaging.

      That’s why consent culture should become a thing because that way there’s less gray area. I agree at bars and clubs, there’s a lack of respect towards bodies and its important to avoid that.

  • Muktar Bin Laden

    I posted the WRONG video link here’s the RIGHT one Justin Beiber being sexually violated by an old cunt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03GUzOcoxxw

    • Eric_D_Read

      Have you taken the JTBS test by any chance?

      http://www.returnofkings.com/5145/john-the-baptist-syndrome

      • Muktar Bin Laden

        I can take advantage of the decline while still being outraged by feminism and society’s hatred of men. This isn’t an either-or scenario dummy. I get worked up about badly behaving cunts, but I also loves me some soft feminine college-aged tail. In other words, I’m both the masculine protective boyfriend and the cunt punter. People aren’t black and white, they’re several shades of grey you clownish hipster. By the way, passive aggressive sarcasm isn’t attractive to women.

      • Eric_D_Read

        Guess I struck a nerve. No one who gets regular quality tail would possibly make as many “GRRRR…damn womenz!” posts as you do like clockwork. You’re only fooling the truly stupid.

        Also, when you have the right smirk to go along with it, bitches love sarcasm. Try it sometime. Maybe you’re comments will stop resembling the mirror image of the average feminister.

  • Quintus Curtius

    What is truly disturbing about false rape accusations (and those who work in the criminal justice system can verify this) is that the false accusers are practically never prosecuted in any way. Not even for a misdemeanor or an ordinance violation. Basically, the accusations are assumed to be true, and it is up to the accused to disprove them. The false accuser has an entire phalanx of people behind her for support: social service workers, “victim’s rights” advocates, delusional family members, etc.

    • Muktar Bin Laden

      Don’t forget the media homie. The media will name shame and demonize the man accused, but they’ll protect the false rape accuser even after her lies are exposed. CNN should be renamed Cunt News Network or Cat Herders Network for its blatant feminist propaganda and glorification of women’s evil actions.

      • kizmet

        Feminism means you believe men and women were created equal. Nothing more nothing less.

        Also women are shamed far more often even when they were the one raped..slut shaming/rape blaming is a huge huge problem.

        But I agree that the media shouldn’t demonize anyone until the trial is over.

      • http://www.facebook.com/gaffaliciouslygreatness David Adrian

        Cunt News Network would look good next to MSLSD :)

  • Tim Shepard

    Down with VAWA

  • jimmy conway

    “Virtually no evidence of struggle”

    What if she was drugged?

    • Slashfund

      What if extraterrestrials froze time while they anally probed her?

      • jimmy conway

        So it’s very unlikely to happen? I’m not familiar with the statistics on this, would you recommend something to read?

    • Roosh_V

      What if she is unable to control her liquor and then says she was drugged?

      • jimmy conway

        If she’s not incapacitated, she wasn’t raped. I’m just bringing up the possibility of incapacitation.

      • Stuki

        What if she’s voluntarily incapacitated?

      • jimmy conway

        Look, I’m no feminist, but I’d call having sex with a passed out girl rape. Maybe she voluntarily took the substances that caused her to pass out, but if you’re fucking an unconscious person, it’s rape.

      • kizemet

        Do you believe men and women are created equal? Because if you do you’re a feminist, that’s what it means…

        Um actually, if there was no consent, its rape. period.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jocelyn.roberts.359 Jocelyn Roberts

      Then I hope she reports it quickly as rohypnol has a short half-life.

      • Stuki

        I effing hate the Rohypnol ban. Not because of the “date rape” BS, but because it is the only darned sleeping pill that actually work, without leaving yo groggy the next day. If you ever have had to pretend to be sharp a few hours after a transcontinental flight, or even a day after under heavy jetlag influence, you know how important that can be. But of course, the prog drones running most of this dump of a planet, are more concerned about placating alarmist idiots than actually getting quality work done.

  • Stuki

    Whether a woman “resists” or not, is not binary. It’s not either/or, but rather how hard. Which depends on the cost/benefit of resisting vs. acquiescing. In the Progressive West, that ratio is all screwed up. If she acquiesces, she is not only “forgiven” for her sluttiness and bad choices that led to the encounter with the rapist in the first place, but is even given all manners of support for her supposed “victim” status. Plus, she gets to pretend that she is “sooooooo” attractive that some guy was willing to risk life in prison to get with her. Also, should she still want to fight back, she risks bruising, cuts and other downsides. So, why should she not simply bang the dude, and then call her alpha (the gommiment) to reduce her subsequent feelings of guilt?

    Compare that with some village where having sex outside marriage leads to being stoned, period. If someone tried to rape her, she has every incentive to fight until her very death before she lets him go through with his act; as death is the certain outcome of losing that fight anyway. IOW, the cost/benefit calculation is completely different; and much better aligned with what most people think of when they hear “rape.”

    Now, the secondary effect of this, is that the expected outcome of an attempted rape, for wannabe rapists, is much lower; since he is basically stuck raping either someone unconscious or dead. Plus, he killed someone’s daughter. Which reduces the incentive someone have to attempt rape in the first place, leading to less of it.

    Just one more way in which those darned Muzzies manage to raise their women to be less trashy than “ours”, and in the process create and/or maintain a more civilized society. But, and here’s the crux, one that does not depend on an overclass of lawyers and taxfeeders to referee acts that ought to be left to individuals; and is hence not very attractive to those in those privileged positions.

  • Quintus Curtius

    The situation is really bad, much worse than people realize. The criminal law has been evolving in recent decades in a direction that erodes the rights of the male “rape” defendant. Some good examples?
    1. “Rape Shield” statutes. Most states have these statutes where, at trial, a defendant is not allowed to probe into the sexual history of the “victim”. It is supposedly not “relevant”, which is bullshit 99% of the time. Basically, on direct or cross examination you can’t even go into the sexual habits or practices of a “victim”, which can often be very relevant.
    2. Erosion of hearsay rules. In sex offense cases, judges now err on the side of pretty much allowing any prejudicial hearsay against a defendant. Even statements made by minor children are now given credence that they never would have been given 30 years ago.
    It just goes on and on. I’m not even going to go into the attempt to use “repressed memory” psychobabble to erode statutes of limitations, or the abuse of sex offender registration, or any other of the hundred examples I could cite.
    The goal is to put men’s testicles into jars of formaldehyde, it would seem.

  • Archer

    I agree that too much empowerment is given to women where under the same circumstances a man would fare far worse. The false accusation claims are not only by women but also girls, look at schools at every level. In Australia an New Zealand 90% of school teachers are female, the number of men whose lives have been destroyed by girls because they received a C grade and not an A which they “felt entitled to” is huge. This is now a major discouragement for men entering teaching. Future/current generations of men are being turned into pussy’s for lack of male role models. This attitude by women starts early in school and through validation carries into adulthood sometimes resulting in false rape claims. We need more MEN i.e Manly Men, we need more males to take the Red Pill.

    • Kizmet

      Women are disadvantaged all across the world. To say that men are the ones at a disadvantage is laughable.

      Do you have a statistic for that?

      Also there are multiple ways to be a ‘man’; its important to deconstruct gender norms and enable people to be beyond what the media portrays as normal. How about empowering people in a way that doesn’t encourage oppression? How about empowering by teaching children to respect all people’s basic humanities and rights to their own bodies?

  • Starke

    Rape is the most over-blown source of moral outrage in our society.
    Were pure logic applied, rape would be classified and prosecuted as assault.

    Our ancestors had the idea that rape was theft, theft of their most valuable asset – a chaste young woman. Rape meant that the young woman was no longer chaste, and thus her life and value was ruined.

    However, it can’t be said that many of today’s maidens are anything near chaste by the time they reach 20, so rape isn’t really stealing anything from them. It’s assault, pure and simple.

  • rocko

    odd…figured feminists from jezebel would swarm on this by now

    • anonymous

      Nah, they’re not capable of debating actual policy. So they just stick to screeching at Hollywood-style “ugliest of” articles.

  • fitz fitzgerald

    Montana: innocent Johnson could have gone to jail for 100 (sic) years … can we trust that the lying girl will now be arrested and charged ?

  • G

    I guess I’m kind of confused. In the manosphere, I see a lot of talk about ugly, old, or fat women not being raped. But there is also the realization that rapist are rapists. Not regular men with normal desires…so why wouldn’t they get raped? If you separate rapists from normal men, why do you assume they’ll be attracted to people in a normal way?

  • Loghorn

    There’s only two words that’ll fix everything: Rape kits.

    • elise

      not every girl wants to get one…. no one wants to be poked and prodded in the vagina right after being raped

  • Pete

    “Authorities are alerted days, weeks, or even months after the rape.”

    This is perfectly understandable. Most police officers are male and suffer from a total lack of understanding, empathy, and basic intelligence. Many rapes are reported late because the victim has already been raped and she is afraid of becoming a victim of ANOTHER attack (rape or even murder) is she has the courage to stand up for herself and report the person who raped her.

    Men who don’t understand this, are simply idiots. Many of them will later turn into bitter old farts who never got laid. Poor momma’s little boys.

  • vallab

    False rape etc are the making of the gender biased laws more than of the woman’s making!

  • WhiteMaleLibertarian

    So your theory is that no one can be coerced, manipulated, and raped by someone they have known for longer than a week? If a father rapes his teenage daughter, who refuses to fight out of confusion and fear, she would, by all your metrics, not have been raped. The same applies to spousal rape, which I am assuming you don’t accept as a reality. I am also assuming you didn’t intend for this article to take minors or family members into consideration, but it’s attitudes like the ones in this article that give those fathers the power to abuse their children, and keeps those children in the dark.

    But yeah, it’s pretty difficult being a dude sometimes, I guess.

  • kizmet

    1) Look up feminism. You’re using it wrong. Feminist means you believe men and women are equal. That’ sit. You can be a feminist and believe other things too but at its core that’s what it means.

    This is awful on so many levels. Sometimes women go into shock and don’t resist. Unless you have verbal consent while not under the influence it’s rape. It doesn’t matter whether they struggle, unless there’s either verbal assent or they are equal participants its rape. Most rapes are actually committed by people you know…

    Also waiting to report: most women are scared, unable to process, or unwilling to even acknowledge it happened until someone helps you come forward. You don’t want to believe it could happen to you and then its hard to acknowledge it does sometimes because it so emotionally damaging.

    As an abuse victim, I waited 10 years to come forward just to come forward, not even to press charges..my mind had blocked it out because I was a child who could not handle the situation and survive mentally. I still don’t have complete memories. But that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…

    I agree that some women do make false rape charges, it happens but not nearly as frequently as women making rape charges that are just undermined and not treated well.

  • anon

    you’re a fucking moron. just because there aren’t signs of struggle doesn’t mean she wasn’t raped. have you ever been raped? i was. there wasn’t a sign of a struggle because by body shut down. i was molested when i was a kid too, so my mind developed a defense mechanism, where it shuts down when traumatized. my rape when i was 18 was such an instance. and he was a friend… someone i trusted. i was definitely raped. people like you are what stop us from coming forward and talking about it. stop writing about shit you know nothing about.

  • Becca

    You are the problem and spreading these false ideologies is worse than you realize. False reports of rape are less than 2% and the rules you have outlined are erroneous and ignore male rape all together. You grossly misunderstand the topic and your ignorance shows.

  • http://twitter.com/levifinley Levi Finley

    I cannot even handle how fucking ignorant ALL of this is. Even the comments below are a testament to rape culture. I just hope for the sake of society and the future women of the world that assholes like you die off.

  • Mark Johnson

    there is some seriously flawed logic here. In #2: the fact that most people are raped by people they know is not a “feminist response,” it’s a well established fact. Regardless, your logic in why it’s unlikely to happen makes no sense; it doesn’t matter if a woman can identify him, proving rape is incredibly difficult (which might have occurred to you when seeing how many cases are dismissed, we’re all considered innocent unless proven guilty after all.) In #3 you fail to recognize that many victims are threatened into silence and have obvious reason to fear for their safety and the safety of their loved-ones. The fact that the police are obligated to keep it from the press does not mean they will (or can) keep it from the assailant (who can tell anyone he or she wants.) As for #1, what about women who have been drugged? how do you suppose they fight back while unconscious? None of this matters of course because you don’t care about logic, you care about publicly justifying your own misogyny. But I thought I’d point it out anyways.

  • Dan S.

    This is one of the most sickening things I’ve ever read on the internet. This guy assumes that all rape is violent and involves only psychopathic strangers breaking and entering into people’s homes, looking for someone to violate. It COMPLETELY ignores the fact that statistically most rapes occur between the victim and an acquaintance, and that most rapes are not, in fact, violent, but involve the assailant either incapacitating the victim some way (through drugs or alcohol), taking advantage of someone who has been thus incapacitated, or just ignoring the words “no” and “stop”. Oh, and never mind the fact that rape is falsely reported no more than just about any other crime is falsely reported – according to one study from 2010, less than 6% of reported rapes are falsely reported. But that doesn’t matter, does it? All you have to do is apply these “tests” and then we can all go home!

    You know what makes it rape? Not the woman screaming and crying “Get off, help, police!” but the woman NOT SAYING, “YES, I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU.” Just like most theft doesn’t involve someone holding a gun or knife and violently assaulting them to steal something, but silently breaking and entering, or taking something when nobody’s around. If a woman hasn’t actively agreed to have sex with a man, and that man just “assumes” she’d be okay with it when she’s passed out drunk or stoned, then it’s rape. Just like if I “assume” you’ll be okay with me taking your car for a joyride without actually asking you, I am stealing your car. Or if she says “stop” and he doesn’t, even if she doesn’t start violently thrashing about to try to stop it, it’s rape – just like it’s also theft if someone pulls a knife on me and takes my wallet without me trying to deck him. Bottom line – the vast majority of rapes are NOT violent encounters between home intruders, or in dark allies.

    Oh, and the assertion that “waiting to report rape” should set off bullshit detectors is itself bullshit. First of all, it doesn’t neutralize the statistic that most rape is committed by acquaintances of the victim, like this jerk says it does. The two things are completely unrelated. Second of all, there are plenty of reported cases, and many, many more cases not reported, of police or university administrations thoroughly re-victimizing a woman who comes forward about being raped. “What were you wearing? Had you gone out with him before? Were you drinking?” “Did he invite you to dinner? Were you flirting with him or making out? If yes, then that’s your own damn fault, quit bothering us.” The reluctance to come forward about rape doesn’t have anything to do with the case becoming public, and everything to do with how coming forward will further negatively impact the woman’s life, even among a close circle of friends.

    As a man, I find this article completely reprehensible. It distorts the truth about rape, who does it, and what constitutes it. It further seeks to absolve men from the responsibility of raping women by casting first aspersions on the accuser, something we generally don’t do in crime. If I report my car stolen, the police don’t automatically assume I’m lying about it. I’m not saying all men accused of rape should go directly to jail without a trial, but we absolutely NEED to take accusations of rape seriously, since it involves the most heinous of personal and physical violation of a woman’s body. In direct opposition to this necessity, this article only perpetuates the rape culture it is trying so “nobly” to fight against.

    • Saer

      Thank you.

  • shana

    Is it really possible for one to be THIS stupid? I mean, come on!
    1. There doesn’t have to be signs of a struggle. I was taught that if a man ever attempted to rape me and it was clear I wouldn’t be able to fight him off, to lay there and let him finish, then kill him when he was done. What the hell do you think is going to happen if I just lay there? There’s going to be no signs of any type of struggle whatsoever. Just because there aren’t any signs, doesn’t make me a liar about the rape taking place.

    2. If I invite a man into my home, it is NOT my fault that he rapes me. And it doesn’t mean a rape never took place. That is the most ridiculous reasoning I have ever seen. So are you one of those men who believe that just because a woman invites you inside her home after a date, ANYTHING goes? Even rape? Try to rape me in my home and your dick will be face to face with the end of a shotgun barrel and very aggressive dog.

    3. Most rape victims are too scared or ashamed to admit they’ve been raped right away. The rapist may have told them if they told anyone, they would kill them or their family. Another stupid ass point your trying to make, just because a rape vitcim comes forward days or weeks after a rape does not mean they were not rape. Its sexist bastards like you who help men get off rape cases against them.

    There are millions of women out there who have been raped, yet haven’t told anyone. I know women personally who are going through this. The fact that your actually trying to defend piece of shit rapists is sickening.

  • Feminist man

    You really seem to have no idea how rape actually happens in America–it’s much more complicated than an anonymous and violent man beating down a woman. In most rapes, the perpetrator and victim know each other and the victim’s wishes and intentions are ignored. The perpetrator beats down mental defenses using alcohol and whatever other tools may be at his disposal. Almost one in four women in America’s been raped in her life. Don’t blame the victim. There are also almost no misreported cases of rape–in fact, rape is one of the most seriously UNDER reported crimes in the US. You don’t solve serious problems by blaming the victims.

  • Katie

    I’m dumbfounded by this article. I’m a policeman; please listen. I have NEVER seen a rape victim report that night or the next day. Sometimes we get reports that are that week or that month, but it is quite rare to get the report that night. The victim virtually always feels some guilt about it: “I drank too much” “I should’ve worn a longer skirt” “I should’ve fought harder”. The report usually comes by accident (a doctor or counselor reports it to police), or because she finally told someone who then reported it or convinced her to come forward.

    In 97% of rapes, the rapist and victim knew each other prior. Rapists are addicts. A man doesn’t just wake up one day and say “let’s try something new”. Like a serial killer, rapists seek out their prey. They may have a certain type they like: redheads, little boys, etc. or they may simply go for opportunities. When I say opportunities, I don’t mean a woman alone a dark alley. I mean the rapist recognizes a weakness he can exploit: women who’ve had a recent tragedy or trauma (especially women who’ve been raped before). Rapists usually start with something cops call ‘grooming’. They maneuver their victim into believing she can trust him completely: providing comfort at the right times, appearing to confide in her, appearing completely unselfish. People tend to see what they desperately want to believe – something rapists take full advantage of. Ever known that girl who absolutely would not let go of a boyfriend that treats her like crap? I am NOT saying her boyfriend is a rapist, but he may have used similar manipulation or the girl is just that desperate. Since they trust the rapist who has befriended them, it’s not unusual for them to go to his house or vice versa – they’re friends, or so she thinks.

    How come the neighbors of serial killers never imagined what he was doing? (1) The guy is good at what he does or he would’ve already been caught. Part of not getting caught is blending in and not arousing suspicion. (2) Nobody wants to believe their friend, co-worker, or neighbor is a serial killer – or a rapist.

    On the day the rapist decides to make his move, it’s pretty easy to get her alone because she trusts him. At the moment he decides is right, he doesn’t grab her and throw her on the bed; that’s a black and white situation which allows people to act with more confidence. He doesn’t want that. He’s going to linger in the grey uncertain area and eventually get to black. He’s already accomplished much of this during the grooming process. He’s done a lot of seemingly innocent things meant to get her used to him being close to her, such as resting an arm on her shoulder or lower back. The first few times he did it may have seemed weird to her, but by the time he makes the big move, he’s already made it commonplace. On rape day, he simply does an expedited form of grooming. Slowly putting hands where they don’t belong. Starting out kissing her “romantically” – something less threatening and she may still consider it grey area.

    Sound like a couple teenagers at a movie? Sort of, with one HUGE difference – hitting the black area.

    Despite feminist rants, if you put the average woman in a room with the average man, the man will kick her ass every time. This is a thought that most people don’t consider until it’s too late… The victim’s situation doesn’t turn black until what I call the “Oh Shit” moment. The moment she realizes he’s paying no attention to what she wants; he’s not even acknowledging that she’s talking. The moment she realizes she’s lost control. That’s when most women first realize (1) they have no idea who this guy is; what else is he capable of?; and (2) her life is literally in his hands. What happens for the rest of the time they’re alone is entirely up to him and how far he is willing to go to get his way. Because of this shock, from the time of the “Oh Shit” moment on, she’s pretty much in fear for her life. And therefore, not knowing how much he’s willing to do to her, she’s scared to fight back or anger him in any other way.

    I would agree women mostly do fight back, but it’s passive. Being scared to piss him off, they usually just tense up or push against him when he tries to move her arm or leg. Think about it. She’s knows damn good and well that if she picks a fight, she will lose. The big question is: How bad will she lose? Will he kill her? Break her jaw? Hang around and cum one extra time just for spite?

    Any guys out there worried about raping someone “by accident”? Don’t be. True misunderstandings are extremely rare. The only reason I call them rare instead of impossible is because I’ve seen it one time. The only reason we found out is because he confessed to it. He said the next day he remembered signs that she really wasn’t into it but was too drunk to care.

    So how can you recognize you may be pushing it too far:
    - She’s crying during sex. Afterward is one thing but if you see tears while in the act, you need to get off her until you know why.
    - She won’t look at you and/or she seems to stare at nothing.
    - She’s just lying there while you “do all the work”.
    - You aren’t getting much response from her, verbally or otherwise.
    - She seems like she’s somewhere else (she probably is).

    Verbally asking her if she wants to have sex can really break the mood, but if you see any of the above, you need to check. Not asking could ruin her life and yours.

    The false reports I’ve seen tend to look like a Hollywood movie: ski masks, strangers jumping out of bushes, weapons no one can find. A liar is working with the same stereotypes the average person has and therefore creates what she thinks is a believable rape. A liar is going to have a clearer story because she’s filling in the gaps with lies. Since no rape actually occurred, you’re not going to get the same sense of guilt from her – she’s just telling a story. She’s trying not to look like a liar so she’s going out of her way to have all the answers. In reality, victims often don’t remember things either because of trauma or because they zoned out with the mentality of just getting it over with and getting out of the situation. Since liars don’t have the truth to back them up, they don’t want to tell a story anyone would question. EVERY true rape situation includes something the average person would raise an eyebrow at.

    This doesn’t make any sense to you? GOOD. Only a rapist would completely understand what he does. Rapists are very sick individuals and defy social beliefs by definition. Their world and the world they bring to their victims is one that does not exist for the average person.

    I despise bad information and those who make false reports – both things help rapists rape another day. If we falsely believe certain things (like believing a report is false when it’s not), we help the stereotypes that keep real rapists in the clear.

    Samseau: I’m sure your intentions are good, but please take this post to heart. According to your signs, every single rape/sex assault case I’ve had (to include cases where the rapist confessed) were false allegations since they fit at least two of your signs. Also, keep in mind, if the situation is hard for the average person to believe because of stereotypes, it’s not as likely to be in the media. The rape cases you hear about are not an accurate reflection of reality.

    • Pvblivs

      I despise false reports because they put innocent men in jail, sometimes for a long time. Yes, they also help real rapists. But the wrongful conviction of innocent men ranks very high in my concept of potential disasters.

  • faker

    Oh, I’m sorry. I must have misinterpreted the situation where someone I previously considered a good friend made a move on me and then “had sex” with me after I deliberately told him that was NOT what I wanted, after we had a lengthy conversation about his feelings and mine, where we concluded I was NOT up for a relationship with him other than friendship and DEFINITELY not a sexual one. You know. I was probably confused when, after all that, he tried to “convince” me by dismissing every “no” on my part, pushing down my hands whenever I pushed him off asking what the hell he was doing.

    No, you’re right. I could not possibly have doubted what to do or have failed to really struggle, because that’s just not something you do. When one of your best friends of ten years forces himself on you, the first thing you do is of course beat him over the head with something you magically happen to have within an arm’s reach, not be shocked or confused or in disbelief at what the hell is happening or he could possibly do that to you.

    And yeah, you’re right. If it had really been rape, going to the police would have been easy. It couldn’t possibly have been rape, cause I was so shocked afterwards and I had such a hard time figuring out wtf had happened. Blaming myself, wondering if it had been real, asking myself if I wasn’t making “too much out of it” because I had the feeling people only considered violent stranger-rape as “real” rape and I was afraid of not being taken seriously, laughed at even… And the sheer disbelief, cause he was my friend. One of my best. Of course the notion that I didn’t go to the police right away in that situation is totally ridiculous. Why wait!

    Yep, I see it now. I’m SO sorry for complaining and ever telling ANYONE I was raped. I am such a filthy little liar, making someone’s life miserable with my despicable false rape accusations. I didn’t put up a serious enough fight. The guy I “slept with” was a -friend- and I failed to report right after. Shame on me for ever thinking I had a right to feel violated. What was I thinking.

    I think you are absolutely disgusting. But then again, apparently you feel the same way about me, since I’m such a dirty faker. I’ll leave your faith up to Karma, and as the saying goes: it’s a bitch.

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