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February 28th, 2013

How Higher Education Feeds Female Delusion

We spend a lot of time here debating the root of some of the antagonism going on between the genders in our society. Today, I’d like to submit an underrated source of this tension and of female delusion: the higher education bubble.

I mentioned female ambition in my previous post. Much of the ambition I described there is fed by easy access to higher education. All of these girls are being sold an idea of the “empowerment” a degree can offer, and they are buying it hook, line, and sinker.

The dream that universities are selling to young middle/upper class women is one in which they can all go to the top with the aid of an education and one in which the whole lot of them (even the less talented) can truly “have it all” so long as they’ve got the degree. If they just secure a few loans, go to school and study whatever interests them, they too can have trendy, powerful professional positions like the girls they see on TV, even if whatever they’re majoring in is totally unmarketable in this economy.

Every little girl is a star.
Every little girl is a future corporate or legal power player.
Every little girl is special…so long as they’ve got the degree to show it.

Witness the girl Roosh recently trolled:

Note the total lack of ambiguity in her speech—she is GOING to be an established lawyer in the largest legal market in North America, and it WILL happen in just a decade. There’s no room for humility either—she IS beautiful, outgoing, driven and educated.

These qualities (especially the last one) make her special, and give her the false authority to insult and talk down to men she hasn’t even met like Roosh. The college degree is the source of her audacity.

Realistically, unless she’s good enough to get into a very good law school (top 25 at least), her chances of finding a good job and becoming an “established” lawyer in a decade aren’t great. The current legal market sucks and even in better days it often took lawyers well over a decade to get “established” in major markets.

Do these realities register? Not really, and explaining them to the future feminist “superstar” in question won’t help much. They’re certain that they are all special snowflakes, and that is the end of the conversation. Men suffer from irrational ambition as well but, as evidenced by our inferior rates of degree attainment these days, we aren’t being suckered into the academic ruse quite as readily as women are.

There are millions of broke dudes running around confident that they can all become big time producers, rappers, athletes, musicians or businessmen, even if there is little objective reason to believe so. The difference is that not quite as many of them are tying a college education (and the large amounts of debt that come with it) to these ambitions. Their female counterparts, who are all dying to be big time designers, fashionistas, writers, courtroom superstars (like the ones they see on Law and Order) and the like, are carrying much larger debt loads to service their ambition.

As women increase their dominance in higher education, they also carry more of the consequences. An increasingly large percentage of our society’s higher education debt load is now being carried by women.

What else fuels this irrational confidence and boundless ambition?

Myth A: The myth that a college degree still opens doors no matter what. This is what has folks like the girl above thinking that a law degree, simply by virtue of its being a law degree, will have them “established” in a decade, shitty legal job market and all.

Myth B: The college bubble—the excessive proliferation of these degrees and the borrowed money to finance them have made higher education below a certain stratosphere almost unremarkable, thus proving the fallacy of Myth A. Degrees are a dime a dozen now and everyone can find a way to pay for them (even as prices continue to grow), so many more people can put their belief in Myth A into practice only to discover its fallacy upon graduation.

The girl Roosh trolled above felt confident enough to contact him out of nowhere, condescend to him, lecture him, and then outright insult him. Why? Because of these delusions I’m bringing up. The widespread proliferation of degrees combined with the ease of financing them and the myth that they automatically open the doors to greatness provides a false sense of authority.

Women are the ones most impacted by this because they’re dominating higher education and earning most of the degrees, all while being fed propaganda by modern feminists about “girl power” and “The End of Men.” You’re seeing attitudes among them that reflect this.

If you’re sure you’re so smart that your degree is about to make you a big shot (all your friends, the media, the schools, and your parents have told you so) and you got the social media machine feeding you constant validation (every instagram mirror shot you put up gets 30-50 likes minimum and a bunch of thirsty comments) and you have an army of white knights out at clubs and at your school to do the same, how are you going to behave?

Chances are you’ll act a lot bigger than you actually are. How humble could you possibly be in the face of such unrelenting praise? Blatantly insulting a dude on the internet whose writing you don’t like probably seems like nothing, and respecting anyone else may become a taller order as well, especially if they’re male. You’re certainly not going to offer proper apologies where they are warranted—why should you?

“I sincerely apologize if you saw it as bullying”? She’s not sorry about what she actually did—she doesn’t need to be because she’s an empowered, special snowflake and future top legal professional. She’s only sorry about the way the execution of the false authority she’s been granted by her degree was perceived.

When the college mythology loses its luster and the bubble that is modern day higher education actually pops, we may indeed begin to see serious change. Girls of a mind similar to the one above may have a harder time finding financial backing for their degrees, and their delusions of grandeur will be revealed more clearly without that false authority to back it up. The fallacy of the “have it all” meme will become more and more obvious.

This may happen sooner than we think as many young women, formerly host to mindsets and ambitions similar to those of the girl above, find themselves playing the barista at Starbucks to get by following the attainment of their English degree from [Insert Run Of The Mill State/Overpriced Private University Here].

So long as this bubble remains, however, average and unremarkable girls will still feel entitled to a future resembling that of Hillary Clinton or Carrie Bradshaw (wealthy, educated, and/or powerful), and they’ll act accordingly.

Why show any respect to the pawns and knights surrounding you when you have already been crowned a queen?

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About the Author

Athlone McGinnis is a young man whose background gives him unique insight on sociological and cultural changes that are happening today. His column runs every Monday.

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Francis Begbie

At least with women who do nursing, STEM etc, even if there’s a good chance they’ll leave the labor market to have children and whatnot, they have a skill, and you can respect that. Even though women who are nurses are fucking crazy, from my experience anyway.

The ones with degrees in English are up their own asses because they’ve read a bit of Simone De Beauvoir, Marxist waffle, moral relativism bullshit, and they think that makes them intelligent, more cognizant of the world than most, despite having little to no work experience. I read History in Trinity lol, really pretentiously said. Hence you get boring girls of average intelligence being propped up to an unusually high level. And the same conversations about fucking

A good way to make a qualify a lassie though, is get them talking about the degree.

As an aside, universities are becoming increasingly irrelevant. The Khan Academy’s/MathDoctorBobs maths videos on youtube have done more for me than any tutor or lecturer, any book could do. What happens when this goes fucking worldwide.

Good post.
- Francis Begbie
  
  that above half sentence was supposed to be “…how religion is evil and how we should save dolphins and become vegans, etc.”
- Barrani
  
  Tell me about it. I knew this history student who didn’t know who Fidel Castro is. I think she now ended up up doing a make work non job and one of those fancy long worded titles with the government. Guess who’s paying her bills.
- Maigo
  
  Even with nursing/medicine they are never committed in the way a man is. If they fail mummy and daddy will make it better, all their friends will tell them that they tried so hard and it’s not their fault it’s (insert weak excuse) fault!
  
  I read somewhere that most female doctors don’t make it 10 years into their career including the years of training. As soon as they meet an attractive male doctor they do their best to get pregnant and spend the rest of their days on the couch, drinking wine out of a box.
Phinn

I love the part where she wants to report Roosh to “law enforcement” for having a “view of the world” that she dislikes. Being “seriously outdated” is apparently a crime now.
- http://www.facebook.com/john.loo.273 John Loo
  
  This is why, if women set the laws, we are all fucked.
  - Roosh_V
    
    This is why, if women are allowed to vote, we are all fucked.
  - http://www.facebook.com/john.loo.273 John Loo
    
    They can already vote, so we are already fucked.
  - Maigo
    
    As far as I’m concerned the decline of modern society and especially politics is a direct result of allowing these children to vote.
  - Phinn
    
    I think the first mistake was allowing women to drive. That’s where the decline started.
  - THELONIOUS
    
    Roosh, your troll game is triple a sir.
  - http://www.facebook.com/john.loo.273 John Loo
    
    Ahh… Touché,
- Natty Shafer
  
  If she’s going to law school, she should look into a little thing called the 1st Amendment. She might want to familiarize herself with that.
- li’l bo
  
  No, she wanted to report him for publicizing her photos on twitter.
  - Phinn
    
    The photos of herself that she put on the Internet? That may be dumber than wanting the police to arrest Roosh for his seriously outdated view of the world.
  - li’l bo
    
    nah, i’m not saying it’s justifiable, but that your cause and effect is wrong.
  - Phinn
    
    It’s more a matter of looking at her statements to discern her motivation. That motivation is the link between cause (“Something is upsetting me!”) and effect (“I’m calling the police!”).
    
    Not even a woman, even one as unstable as her, can be legitimately upset about the online publication of already-online photos. Please.
    
    So, the obvious conclusion we can draw is that the real source of her emotional tizzy (and ensuing police threats) was Roosh’s audacity at stating a “seriously outdated view of the world” (i.e., of her).
  - Anon1111
    
    I am not sure she can “report” him for making photos that are already public, public. If he hacked into her twitter or fb sure, if your profile is public nothing anyone can do about it.
  - http://www.facebook.com/john.loo.273 John Loo
    
    She is an example of what Roosh said, that the legal market in the US is in a bad state. Actually, in Malaysia, we’re having a problem too. Too many graduates who are not up to standard. This is what happens when you put profit and education together. They are trying to revamp the qualification process, but between business interests and quality, guess who wins?
  - P Ray
    
    Actually, in Malaysia, we’re having a problem too. Too many graduates who are not up to standard. This is what happens when you put profit and education together.
    In Asian countries mandates exist by government because of employment, e.g. Singapore.
    The graduates are not up to standard because teachers in Asia are graded as “good” based on the number of people who PASS their courses, not the number who FAIL.
    Hence lecturers there skip the syllabus and let the unqualified through. And penalise the people who do real work.
    A good rule of thumb: If your college or university refuses to release your assignment with marks attached and a marking scheme …
    they are trying to fiddle around and make money by letting the unqualified through … and will victimise YOU when you speak up.
    I got my degree, THANKFULLY NOT IN ASIA.
  - P Ray
    
    “Actually, in Malaysia, we’re having a problem too. Too many graduates who are not up to standard.”
    In Asia, government mandates are only justified with employment. e.g. Singapore.
    Not to mention, teachers get “respect” and “keep their jobs” and parents get to think their children are “oh so smart” … the more people PASS (not FAIL).
    so what lecturers do is skim the syllabus and dishonestly hand out marks.
    Rule of thumb: If you cannot get a copy of your assignment back with marks and a marking scheme attached … you are being victimised by people who do not want you to speak up that unqualified people are being passed by profit-driven lecturers/management (many people love easy degrees). (speaking from experience)
    I gained my qualification … THANKFULLY NOT IN ASIA.
  - http://www.facebook.com/john.loo.273 John Loo
    
    Ahh.. so you’re Singaporean? Nice to meet you. How’s the women over there? Lol. I’m studying for ACCA, they don’t return exam scripts, lol. Isn’t for profit education sort of a conflict of interest? What do you think? Oh, and next time, there’s this neat button called “Edit”. Haha. :P
  - P Ray
    
    Nope. Not Singaporean.
    But recognise that while so many people talk about how “Asians are so educated” (especially those from the West) …
    they don’t go to Asia for their Bachelor’s (usually post-grad in some liberal arts field).
    Isn’t for profit education sort of a conflict of interest?
    Yes, I’ve heard that one before. People if they love their job should also work for free …
    but love is a two way street that is reciprocated by money.
    They love to teach, you should pay them.
    If they don’t return your exam scripts, you are probably being ripped off.
    Will you continue being a model minority and let them get away?
  - http://www.facebook.com/john.loo.273 John Loo
    
    “”…Asians are so educated” (especially those from the West) …”
    
    Really? Don’t know much about that. I think Western universities are still the best. But the scene here in Malaysia is, quite a number of black, middle eastern, and some Korean students.
    
    “you are probably being ripped off.”
    
    Yeah, maybe so.
    
    “People if they love their job should also work for free …”
    
    I don’t think teachers should work for free. But what do you think about government-subsidized education vs for profit education?
  - P Ray
    
    what do you think about government-subsidized education vs for profit education?
    Only has any value if the teachers can have their conduct questioned by the students.
    In other words … they need to justify the marks they give students.
    Student unions in Asia are mouthpieces for management, which is why shoddy marking practices are tolerated.
    Besides, they all want to pass rather than learn anything.
    Even universities in Australia are being paid big money by some students from overseas and management are telling lecturers to pass them despite not meeting standards (of course, those students will probably be practising … in their home countries, heh heh).
    P.S. Did you know, like any money-spinner, ACCA is a cartel just like CLP?
    In other words … even if you do well, you may not gain professional recognition.
  - http://www.facebook.com/john.loo.273 John Loo
    
    “ACCA is a cartel just like CLP? In other words … even if you do well, you may not gain professional recognition.”
    
    Explain.
  - P Ray
    
    Feel free to read up on it, as an example even the American Bar Association … restricts the number of people, yearly, who can become lawyers.
  - http://www.facebook.com/john.loo.273 John Loo
    
    What should I google? “ACCA cartel”? “CLP cartel”?
  - http://www.facebook.com/john.loo.273 John Loo
    
    Can you please give me some links? I can’t find articles about what you said.
TB at BlueCollarWorkman.com

I want my daughters to go to college. I’m an example of how colelge opens doors. I only got my GED and never went to college and most jobs are off limits to me. Going to college at least lets you in to regular ol’ jobs. And if my daughters both just get regular ol’ jobs, then that’s fine by me, as long as they’re happy. But it seems like it takes a college degree these days to get that regular ol job.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Moore/843150611 Dan Moore
  
  As an unemployed man who routinely has interviews end when education comes up (as in, no point in continuing, I have no degree), I approve this message.
tu_ne_cede_malis

For every female high-achiever in the legal field there are probably ten men her equal. The rest get their jobs through daddy’s connections, or building their own network of connections. Other chicks with a name-brand degree can get easy make-work jobs at an NGO, non-profit, government agency, charity, etc.

The losers are those without connections, especially middle-class women who take on huge debt to finance an education (especially those white females who don’t qualify for affirmative action and diversity hires.)
- Mark
  
  White women are the primary recipients of affirmative action goodies.
Brobox

Great post.A common theme I have observed, is that a lot of these women claim to want an equally or higher “educated” mate. But they don’t want him to be smarter then them. Just make more money. Plenty of women with grad and masters degrees working leisure jobs based on their interests that typically pay under 30k per year. Educated for a man to them means “earning potential”. It has ZERO to do with the bullshit claim of similar interests or intellectual conversation because they don’t really want that. They want to be secure with the money you make so they can continue working at their leisure. Not all degrees are created equally. A 2.0 GPA law school grad is still a grad. But we don’t talk about dumb college grads. A psychology degree and a STEM degree do not carry the same weight in my opinion.
Garth

Good post. And you are correct because as far as society is concerned it’s all about women.
beidas

the entitlement mentality of young women will never change as it is driven by numbers – or ‘reality’ ,as some people phrase it.
women 20-30 yrs old are pursued by men 20-60 yrs old, that would be 4 men for every 1 woman, and if shes attractive multiply that by 10, she wont need an education to feel special, so good luck fighting the tide, guys.
- Mark
  
  Correction: the entitlement mentality of a young woman will change after she reaches her Wile E. Coyote moment and realizes that there’s no ground under her feet.
  
  The Wile E. Coyote moment (aka the where-have-all-the-good-men-gone moment) occurs after they turn 30. At that point, she’ll be casting about feverishly for a Captain Save a Ho while working on acquiring her cat herding credential.
http://twitter.com/campofthesaints camp

Bring down the Leftoid alliance between State, Education, and Feminism. Bring down the Cathedral.
JS

It’s status seeking all the way down. I don’t believe they really care about the law, or science, or art. It’s just that somewhere along the line the frame was set that high status for women meant career, and women seek out what the elites currently claim denotes status. The solution, alphas, don’t date them! Treat them as low status (pump and dump). Show that high-status men only go for feminine women. Set femininity and classiness as the mark for high status. Saddle them with betas they can’t stand.
- American Yogini
  
  Why do you think a woman with a career cannot be “feminine”?
  
  If the “feminine” women you date don’t work, who pays their bills?
  
  You?
  Their other boyfriends? Their parents? Working siblings? The State through tax payers’ (my) money?
http://www.facebook.com/john.loo.273 John Loo

I always believe that if you are truly good at something, you don’t have to tell the whole world about it. You would have a reputation. There’s an old Malaysian saying – empty can. Which makes more noise? A filled can or an empty can? Here’s another one – when a chicken lays an egg, the whole village knows about it (because they cluck, bwak or whatever it is the noise that they make. How do you say the noise that a chicken makes in English?)
- Chase
  
  Cluck and crow, I think.
http://www.facebook.com/Ommin202 Colton Hornstein

I remember reading that conversation before and loving it. Reading it again, I noticed how often she used adverbs (words ending in ly) and I remember reading that is a sign of being undereducated and also not knowing what you want to say/rambling.
Also, the connection is obvious but not stated: Women are touting that they’re doing better than men because they are getting a higher % of the degrees BUT if those degrees are worthless then they are doing better at something that is a negative, not a positive.
SimpleMan

Perfect article. And so so true.

The barista in the picture above lives down the street from me, the coffee shop is always chock full of skinny panted hipster dudes with bad hair and facial hair.
- Gustvo
  
  Wormhole, Chicago.
http://twitter.com/Unscrupulousmen Unscrupulous Men

Anthlone, a quibble with one of the stats, but nothing more. The only law school graduates receiving the 160k/yr in Manhattan are graduating from the top classes of HYS ( Harvard, Yale, Stanford). Even then many get burned out after a year from the grueling hours they have to put in. If they are able to establish themselves, it would take at least fifteen years. So we are looking at burned out mid-forties, man-jawed hag with an axe to grind. All provided of course she graduates from the top of the HYS class. More likely, she will be attending one of the fine instructions listed on this blog: http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/ again, just a quibble to another very well written article.
- Athlone McGinnis
  
  The legal market is bad, but it is a little better than you portray. You can see BigLaw placement rates for 2011 graduates in this link:
  
  http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/02/27/looking-for-the-top-biglaw-feeder-schools/
  
  Keep in mind that this study does not account for those who choose other opportunities (clerkships, business, teaching, public interest, federal gov., etc) nor does it account for those who select smaller boutique firms that pay well (or are perhaps run by friends/family) or those who end up with smaller but still sizable firms (NLJ 350 firms). Add all of that in and the numbers get a little better.
  
  HYS grads are not the only ones getting NYC Biglaw. NYU, Columbia, Cornell and UPenn are sending a decent number as well.
  
  You’re right to say that making $160k isn’t easy, but if you can make your way into a Top 14 school your chances of getting close to that or at least clearing the six figure mark aren’t that bad.
  - http://twitter.com/Unscrupulousmen Unscrupulous Men
    
    Yeah, T14 law grads will do better than most. It’s also true that there are more opportunities than becoming an associate with K&E or wherever. Still, it seems to me that many law grads are in for a rough ride to say nothing of the debt many of these people are incurring. I still think that a lot of people, such as the lady above, have this idea that a JD is the path towards some type of glamorous SATC lifestyle. Many will be disappointed. That is just my sense.
  - http://www.rooshvforum.com/user-777.html Athlone McGinnis
    
    You’re right, they will be disappointed. And the debt is still an issue, even for the T14 grads.
Anon

B.J. is probably not going into debt to obtain her law degree. Tuition at McGill for Quebec students is only about $4,000/semester. It is oven lower at other universities; about $2,000 (including books!) for a law degree. In any case, her parents are probably paying for her.
- anonymous
  
  Yeah, but in her special-snowflake 13 year old mind, she fantasizes about practicing in New York. The NY bar is a pain in the ass to sit for without an American JD or LLM:
  
  http://www.nybarexam.org/Foreign/ForeignLegalEducation.htm
Adam

Women habitually objectify men. She probably does, too. Add hypocrite to her resume.
Doc

“the antagonism going on between the genders”

I don’t see any antagonism in general – of course there are specific cases usually from the Feminazi element that see all men as enemies. Of course, a lot of women take issue with the things other women crave and want men to do to them – choking, spanking, f**king them till they can’t walk, deep throating, etc…

In those cases I see it as being more of a case of jealousy. Of course they would disagree – but what else can you mark it up to since another woman actively craves it and wants it? If a man were to do that, people would say that he was jealous. I have come to the conclusion over time, that women are just like men when it comes to doing slimy things – and actually, if truth be told, they are worse because they get away with it more. So if a woman is screaming about something another woman loves – its because she is jealous and wants her men to do it to her. Simple logic….
- American Yogini
  
  “Of course, a lot of women take issue with the things other women crave
  and want men to do to them – choking, spanking, f**king them till they
  can’t walk, deep throating, etc…”
  
  Why do we even know about these things? That is the issue right there. Not that people are doing it. I don’t give a rat’s ass what anyone does in the privacy of their own home. But why do they feel the need to broadcast it? Doubt, insecurity and validation are my only guesses.
  - Ozzo
    
    Changing the subject and insulting because this bitch in unable to come up with a counter argument. You lose troll, go away.
American Yogini

So then why is the author of this piece, Athlone McGinnis, himself even in college?
- Anon1111
  
  College or university in itself is not a bad choice if you pick the right field. Having grand delusions like he mentioned in the post (of which many women and even men are guilty) is the problem.
  - American Yogini
    
    What’s the author’s “field”?
  - Barrani
    
    Does it matter? Why are you interpreting this as a post against going to university? It’s not but someone ought to point out the bullshite. Degrees today have become a Gucci accessory and a means of social validation and this is fucking up attitudes and the job market. What the author is saying is that if you have to go for one then make it count and choose wisely.
  - American Yogini
    
    What degrees count and can land one a good, high paying and satisfying career?
  - mike 2
    
    American Yogini fuckoff troll
Too Easy

Dear Athlone McGinnis,

If you’re having so much trouble picking up women, then perhaps higher education isn’t the right place for you.

Peace.
- Too Easy
  
  PS- I think making 160k a year becomes more difficult if you get suspended.
- http://www.rooshvforum.com/user-777.html Athlone McGinnis
  
  I haven’t had problems picking up girls who are/were in college, so I don’t think I need to worry.
Kenny

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larissafaw/2011/11/11/why-millennial-women-are-burning-out-at-work-by-30/
bacon

the thing is all the debt these women carry are often paid for in part or in full by her future husband because when she marries her debt becomes their debt. its no wonder they dont worry about student loan debt. if guys could get someone else to pay their debt besides them they would probably not think twice about racking up debt either.
- Glengarry
  
  Hubby-to-be should consider the presence of that sort of handicapping of one’s progress before sealing the deal.
  
  So let’s take a look at it: you have someone who by getting a degree is by definition nearly out of her prime already, and for better or worse possesses the sexual skills and proclivities for which one in an earlier age would have to pay. But wait, there’s more! She also has a lot of debt to share with you, quite possibly lasting far beyond the end of your relationship. So call now. Our operators are standing by.
  - Glengarry
    
    PS. Not really loving the new commenting system by the way.
randian

I think part of the irrational ambition is due to television. One thing that’s very striking on television shows is how much younger the women typically are at the same level of attainment as the men. Usually 10-15 years younger.
- Brobox
  
  Ah yes the “young prodigy” they put on TV that climbs the ranks at lightning speed these days is usually a woman. It could also mean that youth and beauty is still considered TV worthy more heavily at the limited exclusion of every other stereotype. It plays to the hypergamy aspect as well. Young, successful woman and surrounded by older, successful experienced men.
- Dutchie
  
  Yep. Also with black people on TV / in movies. I can’t remember the last time I saw a black person in a realistic role. They’re either Head of Science, Chief of Police or [insert any highly educated and / or powerful position]. I mean, seriously!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1448949975 Mark Minter

One of the best articles on ROK. Astute observation.

Steve Mockey writes in The Woman Racket about the tendency of women to aggregate in sex segregated jobs, both because they lean towards jobs that have a social aspect and they have tendency towards “clean jobs”. He details how before 1900, office work was predominately a male job because it required a level of education which few had and an understanding of the business processes. With the spread of more general education and invention of technology like a typewriter or adding machine, and with the incorporation of management practices to make the large office more like the factory, then both the pool of available people to do the work grew and the competence required to do it decreased. And as more and more women flocked into it, the overall status and wages decreased, not because women went into it, but because the market realities of the occupation changed with the increase in the supply of possible workers.

I would predict the same thing for many current professions, as woman flock into them, both because of education and with changing technology, the value of the occupations will decrease. Accounting is one example. Even 30 years ago, the competency required to be a CPA or work in accounting (They don’t like that word anymore, they work in Finance now. The CFO is actually the head accountant) has dropped immeasurably and the commercial demand for them has somewhat diminished as software has changed to profession quite a lot.

So as long as women pile into a narrow set of professions and continue to exclude STEM on the high end and “dirty” work on the other, then the same thing that happened with office work will happen to other occupations.

Yet, for men, there is some danger in credentialism. It can be an excuse for prejudice against men. An Atlanta law firm hired a receptionist and demanded a degree for the job. They claimed “Corporate Culture”, that all the others had degrees and they wanted someone that fit in. Roosh has previously written on how you need Game to get a job because you had to get through the girls in HR. I have an opinion that this firm required a degree because they didn’t want to hire a man for that position and no man with a degree would accept a job as a receptionist.

There were many stories during the 2007-2009 time of men being let go because they lacked a degree or higher degree, i.e. the Tom Hanks movie. My opinion also is that was a way from credentialed women to clear the competition of men and solidify their postion and ensure more room for women to enter the managerial ranks. “Corporate Culture” is cloak word that can veil a whole lot of discriminatory and biased practices. Many men have and will continue to feel the sting of this protected practice of “protecting the corporate culture”.

Do underestimate how far this can go in society. The real estate busts of 2007-2009 enabled the strengthening of home owners and coop associations in what was viewed as attempt by residents to protect the value of their homes. Boards can vote to create constitutions that will upheld by courts as long as their “appears” to be equitable treatment of all.

To buy a condo in some coops now, much personal data has to be turned over, including criminal reports, financial records, credit histories, and even driving histories. And it is a short leap to assume that educational records can and will be required. And you can be excluded by a vote of the board and the potential sale voided. Or it is a short leap to say “married” or “with children”.

So I can foresee a day where the “corporate culture” and “coop bylaws” are means to exclude many men from work and neighborhoods merely by stipulating requirements that statistically favor women at the expense of men. And with the approval and backing of the courts and government.
- P Ray
  
  That would be Busch, Slipakoff & Schuh in Atlanta
  Their receptionists are chosen for attractiveness.
  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/business/college-degree-required-by-increasing-number-of-companies.html?partner=MYWAY&ei=5065&_r=1&
EastAsianNationalist

And if they don’t get the jobs they want, they’ll someone place the blame back on men for alleged discrimination. That’s how it works folks. Perpetual victimhood.

Luckily for us, the more retarded types end up doing gender studies or sociology or some other worthless bullshit, so they’re digging their own grave.
citizen norbit

Yup, utter divorcement from reality and impossible levels of unfounded pretension and conceit are the calling cards of today’s “educated woman”. Add in the fact that feminists think they have the right to judge everyone else and never be judged themselves, and you get a really rancid concoction. That’s why it’s so funny to see them get completely outwitted like in the above example, she had no idea who she was going up against….
Jack Schitz

Hahaha.

I was a corporate lawyer in NYC (top 5 firm) who came from very near the top of my class at a top 3 law school (currently I’m a hedge fund manager). Most (the key here is MOST) of the women eventually punch out and go the “counsel” mommy track when they realize what it takes to become “established” is to put in 100+ hour weeks, week after week after week….. This is despite the fact that big law firms have a hard on for making women partners to keep up their diversity requirements. Junior women often also have an attitude about the level work effort required (“what do you mean we’re going to be working all weekend????”), where MOST junior men, once the figure out what they’ve gotten themselves into, just get on with it (sometimes they quit later, but they generally do what they were asked). Yep. Mommy track it is. I think half of the kids born to women corporate lawyers are simply there to provide an excuse not to work more than 50 hour weeks.

BTW, if I signed this post with my real name and I was still working as a lawyer, I would expect to be fired (can’t have the truth now can we).
http://www.facebook.com/mike.sergent.3 Mike Sergent

Awesome article..I have felt this way a long time about these delusional women. 40 + years of feminism and they STILL largely rely on Men in every way.

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