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February 14th, 2013

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The Truth About AIDS & Heterosexual Transmission

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Always use protection, we’re told. Gonorrhea, Syphilis, “The Clap”… they’re all real, and usually quite treatable if caught early. But the biggest, baddest venereal disease has long been HIV, and the debilitating disease it causes, AIDS. Since the 1980s, we’ve been inundated with talk of AIDS and the great threat it poses. But the truth has never been told in mainstream channels, in clear and simple terms: HIV and AIDS are overwhelmingly the province of homosexual men, injectable drug users, and the people who sleep with them.

In America, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) estimates there are just over one million people with HIV. According to the CDC, HIV is at a higher prevalence among homosexual men and intravenous drug users, as compared to heterosexuals. Men who have had sex with men (MSM) within the last five years account for 78% of new male infections,  63% of all new infections, yet MSM are only about 2.0% of the entire population. Once you partition out the HIV rates of the various groups, using data buried in CDC tables, the differences are stark. Below, I’ve presented a series of graphics using the data from Table 17a, page 58, to illustrate the patterns of HIV infection.

Who Is Infected?

This chart illustrates who makes up those infected with HIV – for instance, a quarter of those who are infected with HIV are white men who contracted it from having sex with men. (‘Sober’ is used here to mean that HIV was not contracted through the use of intravenous drugs.) Gay black and Hispanic men are responsible for another 15% and 10% respectively, while intravenous drug users account for another 22%, 5.8 percentage points of whom are men who have sex with men. All told, some 73% of HIV infections are accounted for by men who have sex with men and intravenous drug users, groups that comprise less than 5% of the US population. Even for someone who contracts HIV through heterosexual contact, there’s a good chance she got it from a bisexual man or a needle drug addict. As you may have noticed, a very large proportion of the populace is lumped into that ‘Other’ category. Below is a pie chart of the same groups, except the size of their respective slices indicates their share of the US population as a whole.

How Common Is HIV?

The simple pie charts above don’t demonstrate the prevalence of HIV. I estimated the prevalence of each sub-group, using the CDC data, and these reveal that HIV and AIDS are very rare among straight, drug-free whites and Asians. Hispanic and black straight men are at higher risk, but still vastly below that of homosexual men and intravenous drug users. Comprehensive data on how HIV is being transmitted among heterosexuals is not available in the CDC report. But you can be sure that much of it is occurring because of people sleeping with high risk groups (a woman sleeping with a promiscuous homosexual man, or a man having unprotected anal sex with a heroin addict). Research has consistently shown that even among street hookers, HIV is rare to non-existent so long as the hookers were not using intravenous drugs.

Among men who don’t sleep with men and don’t do intravenous drugs, the prevalence of HIV is about 0.1%, while the comparable figure for gay men is 16%. Below are the rates of infection for various groups, between the ages of 18 and 54, inclusive. As you can see, straight, sober men hardly register; the only straight sober group with a prevalence above 1% are black women. Injectable drug users are represented only in the Injectable Drug Using categories, and not the racial groupings.

How Does The Rate Of Infection Compare Among Groups?

To give you a firmer idea of how the risk compares between groups, I divided the prevalence of HIV among all groups and divided them by the prevalence among sober straight white men. For example, a man who has sex with men is 700 to 800 times more likely to have HIV than a sober straight white man, the reference group. Below are four charts, one for straight men, one for straight women, one for men having sex with men, plus one chart with all of them in a single chart for easy comparison. All racial groups below only pertain to non-IDU users; IDU users of all races are included in the IDU-specific groups. Though not covered here, rates of syphilis are also vastly higher among men who have sex with men, as compared to heterosexuals, a difference of more than 100-fold.

Transmission From Women To Men Via Vaginal Sex Is ‘Inefficient’

study of sub-Saharan African heterosexual couples where one partner had HIV found that typically only one in 900 acts of unprotected sex would transmit the virus. Stanford School of Medicine’s Dr. Mark Holodniy, when asked how heterosexual men contract HIV, responded “I suspect that some of it relates to whether these men are truly hetero or bisexual, and whether injection drug use is a risk factor.” Provided you are not having sex with men, intravenous drug users, or women who sleep with such people, the risk of getting HIV is infinitesimally small.

Why are these facts kept from the light of day? One can only speculate. Homosexuals are a favorite of the modern left, and these figures would draw scrutiny to their behavior. For instance, why does such a debilitating disease continue to be so rampant among homosexuals? Why is it still spreading, at about 30,000 cases per year among men who have sex with men? Are they really as monogamous as gay marriage advocates would have us believe? On occasion, the media will admit to tiny cracks in the nice narrative of “Homosexuals, Just Like The Rest of Us” –  a study covered in the New York Times reveals that 50% of gay marriages are ‘open marriages.’ Incorporating figures like these into our mental image of homosexuals is sure to raise some thorny questions of policy and propriety, a conversation that the left simply does not want. Meanwhile the mainstream right is too cowardly to pose much opposition.

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  • http://thecaptainpower.blogspot.com thecaptainpower

    Awesome post! I remember when Magic Johnson made his big announcement, I was in junior high and they had everyone paranoid…

    I don’t even think you can donate blood if you had man to man sex, unless they changed that recently

    Good job!

    • Matt

      When I was in college, I worked with a few gay men and some of them told me that they lied when donating blood because they didn’t think it was fair for them to be excluded. I was a biochemistry major and I nearly blew a blood vessel trying to explain why the rules existed and that no test is 100% sensitive so it was important to exclude high risk groups. I don’t think my ranting made a dent.

      • http://thecaptainpower.blogspot.com thecaptainpower

        I never donated blood, but I remember they used to hand out a sheet of paper that said you cant donate if you:

        A) had anal sex
        B) Took intravenous drugs
        C) Got a tattoo in last 6 months

        But this was years ago, are those rules still in affect?

      • Matt

        The rules are still in effect. (see here for far more information than you probably want).

        The reason why is because it’s a high-yield rule. They exclude a very small fraction of the population and dramatically lower the risk of taking contaminated blood.

        As I understand it, there’s a lot of pressure from outside groups to change the rule for social equality reasons, but so far the FDA has rightfully refused to relax the restriction. If I ever need a blood transfusion, I hope the rule is still in place.

      • ScottA

        How long do you really think this rule will last in the current enviroment? My guess is political correctness will kill it within the next 10 years and an “unexplained” increase in AIDS transmission from blood transfusions. I hope I’m wrong.

    • noob

      For an article about the “Truth” about HIV you don’t know your facts very well.

      1. HIV means nothing, it’s just a piece of DNA strand. No one knows jack shit about it and it has NEVER been proven to lead to AIDS. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
      2. AIDS is caused by people who have been told they have HIV getting treatment. Basically their bodies are pumped full of chemicals that destroy their immune system. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
      3. A Perth (Australian) medical facility recreated an AIDS like effect by saturating healthy blood with a cocktail of chemicals and waiting a few weeks.
      4. They ran a biodome research clinic where patients were subjected to pure water, air and food for months at a time. All patients (cancer, aids…) showed signs of improvement, some were cured of their ailments. And so the biodome got shut down by the powers that be. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
      5. David Grohl’s wive has HIV and is a spokesperson against AIDS treatment. She’s been healthy infected with HIV for over 10 years. Look it up if you don’t believe me.

      • Blaster

        #1 I looked it up. Everything I’ve found says otherwise. I liked this one, DOES HIV CAUSE AIDS? , which specifically goes about debunking common assertions about the relationship between HIV and AIDS.

        At the end, there is a section summarizing the evidence linking HIV and AIDS:

        1. Before the appearance of HIV, AIDS-like syndromes were rare, today they are common in HIV-infected people

        2. AIDS and HIV are invariably linked in time, place and population group

        3. The main risk factors for AIDS are sexual contact, transfusions, IV drugs, hemophilia. These have existed for years but only after the appearance of HIV, has AIDS been observed in these populations

        4. Infection by HIV is the ONLY factor that predicts that a person will develop AIDS

        5. Numerous serosurveys show that AIDS is common in populations with anti-HIV antibodies but is rare in populations with a low seroprevalence of anti-HIV antibodies

        6. Cohort studies show that severe immunosuppression and AIDS-defining illnesses occur exclusively in individuals that are HIV-infected

        7. Persistently low CD4+ T4 cell counts are extraordinarily rare in the absence of HIV or another known cause of immunosuppression

        8. Nearly everyone with AIDS has anti-HIV antibodies

        9. HIV can be detected in nearly everyone with AIDS

        10. HIV does fulfill Koch’s postulates

        11. New-born infants with no behavioral risks develop AIDS if infected as a result of the mother being HIV-infected

        12. An HIV-infected twin will develop AIDS, while the uninfected twin will not

        13. Since the appearance of HIV, mortality has increased dramatically among hemophiliacs

        14. Studies of transfusion-acquired AIDS has repeatedly led to discovery of HIV in recipient as well as donor

        15. Sex partners of HIV-infected hemophiliacs and transfusion patients acquire the virus and AIDS without other risk factors

        16. HIV infects and kills CD4+ T cells in vitro and in vivo

        17. HIV damages CD4 precursor cells

        18. Body viral (HIV) load correlates with progression to AIDS

        19. HIV is similar in its genome and morphology to other lentiviruses that often cause immunodeficiency, slow wasting disorders, neurodegeneration and death

        20. Baboons develop AIDS after inoculation with HIV2 that also causes AIDS in humans

        21. Asian monkeys develop an AIDS-like disase after inoculation with simian immunodeficiency virus

        Another confirmation I’m familiar with that is not on the list, is that the knowledge of the HIV virus’s T-cell invading properties has been successfully used in anti-cancer treatments.

      • Hugh G. Rection

        I don’t believe you, but I won’t bother to look it up. You are simply to lazy to provide credible references, or you have none.

  • http://www.politicallyincorrectnovel.com Ari

    We now have Obamacare. It makes healthcare more expensive for the states.

    What I’ve long wondered is this:

    Could these facts bring back sodomy and anti-homosexual conduct laws? Anti-retrovirals are expensive. States and taxpayers don’t want to pay for them without a very good reason. Perhaps in the near future, states WON’T be able to pay for them due to a bad economy. Could the “intermediate scrutiny” analysis applied by the Supreme Court in Lawrence v. Texas enable broke states to trim their medical budgets by banning gay conduct, or claim that’s what they’re trying to do? Will any states try that?

    We’ll find out. Maybe.

  • pdwalker

    AIDS = anal inserted death syndrome.

    Of course, we knew that already.

  • the passenger

    Dear Kings!

    Do yourself a big surprise and Google Peter Duesberg!
    He and also professor Kary Mullis who won the 1993 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his invention of the polymerase chain reaction technique for detecting DNA,

    say that THERE IS NO HIV VIRUS!
    Its all a scam to make sick people PAY for “treatment” which worsens their condition greatly.

    Why Magic Johnson is still alive? Cause he refused AZT poisons.
    Also watch House of Numbers movie.

    • http://www.themastersoffate.com Invictus III

      ^What he said. HIV is bullshit and AIDS is caused by so called AIDS medication.

    • bacon

      in addition to the points in the article, after seeing this documentary as a straight guy you cant help but no longer worry about aids
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p-ttLfkZHQ

  • Louie Grifon

    This is great work. Getting the actual numbers out there is a service to everybody, whether they’re at high risk or not.

    As to why the disinformation: It’s more the political left that’s been cowardly. Homosexuals, IV-drug users, and other at-risk groups would be better protected if they knew the facts. Their benefactors on the left, however, have been afraid to give the real numbers the attention they deserve, since that would mean serious scrutiny for a portion of their voter base.

    Meanwhile, religious conservatives (and secular right-wingers who go along with their bullshit) have been opportunistic about using HIV/AIDS to make everyone scared of sex. If heterosexuals today are still worried about AIDS, we have the anti-sex activism of conservatives (coupled with the self-preserving silence of liberals) to blame.

  • Anonymous

    If HIV is only transmitted in only 1 out 900 acts of unprotected sex then Africans in the Southern part of Africa are either having intercourse like rabbits, love anal or they’re closet homosexuals.

    4 out of 10 adults in Bostwana have HIV and most African countries are very conservative regarding homosexuality if not violently anti-gay.

    Hows has HIV spread so quickly?

    • Samseau

      Something to do with them having more sickle-cells I think

      • Anonymous

        More untreated Syph and GC. HIV loves broken mucosa.

    • David

      When I last checked, which was admittedly some years ago, African transmission rates and African infection rates were not based on actual tests…but instead extrapolated from computer models.

      I don’t believe the rates quoted for Africa by science and the media. Not until they do actual testing.

      BTW, again, last time I checked, the tests themselves are flawed, because HIV has never been properly isolated as other retroviruses have. If you get tested, the package probably still says that it does not guarantee accuracy.

    • trs

      There is evidence that anal sex is the problem in Africa:
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2993016.stm

      Which is hilarious. All these many millions in drugs and programs and probably all that needs to be done is to warn people to knock off the sodomy.

  • Smart Duck

    If you have the stomach, check this article with stats about the gay lifestyle. A thousand partners, suicide, 25 years of shorter life expectancy. Only 5% of gay “marriages” last 20 years, but they want to adopt children.

    http://henrymakow.com/Homosexuality-Proof-Government-Promotes-Sickness.html

  • cHIPPIE

    Blacks even who are straight have a much higher rate of AIDs and if you search the web many times more chance of having all the sexual diseases.

  • Sam Spade

    I wouldn’t say this info is totally suppressed in the mainstream. I took a health course in college (public university) that explained as much. Additionally when giving blood I’ve had to fill out a questionnaire from the Red Cross that seeks to preemptively weed out infection risks (prior to actual testing of course). The questions involved any homosexual history, intravenous drug use, and travel to sub-Saharan Africa. In fact I was surprised to see that organization posing questions based on (useful) generalities when the PC crowd is always so quick to attack them by saying “not all ___ are like that.”

    • Emmanuel Goldstein

      Lol. If you’re going to disagree with me, you might want to, you know, provide supporting evidence. People wouldn’t be thanking me for writing this article if the information here was as tersely and clearly stated in the mainstream media. The media will almost never say the prevalence of AIDS among homosexual men, around 20% IIRC. And they definitely won’t say that a gay man is hundreds times more likely to have AIDS than a straight sober white man.

      Here’s a general guideline: if you said something true that would make a SWPL flip his shit and denounce you, then it’s suppressed in the mainstream. This doubtless qualifies.

      • Sam Spade

        We don’t disagree.

  • Spaniard

    This line is an error, I believe: “Though not covered here, rates of syphilis are also vastly higher among men who have sex with men, as compared to homosexuals, a difference of more than 100-fold.”

    Can it be corrected? Or will the error stay once the story has been posted?

    • Emmanuel Goldstein

      Thank you for the note, much appreciated. It has been corrected.

      • Spaniard

        Welcome!

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  • BIGINJAPAN

    Not to start down the road of massive conspiracy theories, but everyone seems to think African men are closet homosexuals. Somehow I doubt that, since that whole continent isn’t exposed at all to the gender bending influences like we have here.

    There are numerous studies that prove the infection rate of a mother infected with HIV and passed onto the child are around 10%.

    So if you look at these 2 facts that vaginal sex and such a low transmission rate of infection being passed on to newborn than how can some countries in Africa have such high rates of HIV ?

    Even more disturbing how can there be such high rates among children ? I know they try to blame it on breast feeding. But even the NIAID has no solid proof. They ESTIMATE that 1/3 to 1/2 of infections are through breast feeding in under developed countries. Other studies suggest in North America that the rate is 10-14% of infection being passed on from breast feeding.
    http://www.niaid.nih.gov/topics/hivaids/understanding/population%20specific%20information/Pages/children.aspx

    Doing some quick statistical analysis shows that there is a large gap unaccounted for. Why is there so many children affected with HIV in Africa ? They are too young to be having sex and even if they were they certainly are not having gay sex or anal sex with other girls.

    I am searching for my old link which I believe was from the WHO. But it is estimated that in Africa only 6 percent of boys and 11 percent of girls have had sex under the age of 15.
    http://www.avert.org/children.htm

    Webpage above is using WHO data and UNICEF.

    All these leads to ask the obvious question. Maybe it isn’t sex that is spreading AIDS on the continent. Maybe it is something else.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_trial_in_Libya

    LIbya is one of the richest countries in Africa. Has the same infection rate for HIV as Canada. Now many will claim Gaddafi is nuts and they tortured the accused for false confessions. ( funny how that is ok when the US does it ) But if Libya does it, it doesn’t count.

    Anyways Bulgarian nurses know that you can’t reuse syringes and that was never proven to be a fact. So how did 400 children end up with HIV ? You don’t have to think outside the box to put 2 and 2 together.

    Also since the west doesn’t negotiate with terrorist why was France so quick to make an arms deal will Gaddafi in exchange for releasing the nurses ?

    I know I haven’t included a ton of links or more info but this is all easily researched. I am not being dishonest or giving parts of story. I am in the middle of trading and can’t focus solely on this right now.

    • TMG

      Consider this: HIV gradually sickens people when the “viral load” of the disease is too great in their system for their immunity to overcome. Next, think of all the reasons that a poor African might have a compromised immune system to begin with.

      Individual communities can also have higher viral loads. That is, if i have sex in one community with a high viral load, there is a greater chance that my first incidence of infection will be harder for me to fight. And if i keep having sex with my partner, the viral load will keep going up in me.

  • Solomon

    Everyone has Aids-

    http://youtu.be/StPTCo5qk8E

  • Mad Max

    This information is not hidden. It is just not publicized and mainly for political reasons. If the public of the Western World realized we were spending billions and billions of dollars on a disease that would simply go away in ten to twenty years if homosexual men, a mere 1% of the population, stopped engaging in anal sex the screws would come loose.

    If you are a man and do not want to be at risk for HIV/AIDS the answer is simple. Do not let another man insert his penis into your anus. If you are a woman and do not want to be at risk for HIV/AIDS the answer is similar. Do not have sex with a man who has let another man insert his penis into that man’s anus. If you follow this advice and stay away from dirty needles the chances you will contract HIV/AIDS is literally about .0000001%.

    The HIV/AIDS virus is not exceptionally strong unlike other viruses such as the flu or HSV 1 or 2. For an infection to take, the initial virus load must be very high. The virus will only stay alive for an hour or two outside of a human body and transmission can only take place in mucous membranes or open wounds. Also, the human immune system has shown it is capable of fighting off an initial infection in some circumstances.

    A friend of mine who is an infectious disease doctor openly questions if transmission can even occur between an infected female to a male absent extraordinary circumstances. He will say that most men who profess to have been infected through vaginal sex are either clearly lying about never having anal sex (a physical exam of a man’s anus and rectum can easily show this kind of sexual activity) or are injectable drug users (also quite easy to tell from a physical exam). He will also say that the only case of female to male transmission he believes actually occurred without anal sex or needles being involved was with a patient who had open herpes sores at the time he had sex with the woman. Moral of the story for men – stay away from anal sex with men and needles and you have almost no chance of contracting HIV/AIDS.

    I really do not care if a man is a homosexual or decides to be one out of a choice free of coercion. But I fail to see why society should spend billions of dollars to research a cure for a sexual transmitted disease that is pretty must exclusively a problem in the domain of such as small minority. I also do not see why we have to change every social institution to accomodate such a aberration. Also, how the mainstream media portrays homosexuality these days is really dangerous for children. Now teens who are nothing more than a little socially awkward are being told by so-called health professionals that it is because they are actually homosexual. Messing with children in such a way is disgusting. Every homosexual I know says that they “knew” that their sexual identity was different from an early age.

    Also, anal sex (man on man or man or woman) is just not normal and healthy sexual activity. If you do not believe me just Google some medical photos. I might get some flack from the PUA guys who will call me a beta but I never got the appeal of anal sex. The one and only time I tried it on a woman it was horrible. I got shit all over my dick (she even “prepped” beforehand) and it left her bleeding and uncomfortable for days. Maybe some guys get off on the sheer dominance aspect of the practice, but I surely did not.

    • TMG

      All true. And some females in the West are contracting HIV solely because of their penchant for ex-convicts who had anal sex in prison, willingly or no.

  • TMG

    There is all kinds of stuff about this disease that we’re not being told due to political correctness. Google “viral load” and ask yourself if you hear that on trendy PSA’s with celebrities.

  • http://www.brockonlife.com Brock

    I am so glad someone finally posted an article and statistics on this. As someone from South Africa who had a number of HIV scares due to unprotected sex or the condom breaking, I can’t tell you how many nights I lay in bed panicking about whether I was going to die or not.

    Then one day I just decided to do my homework, and found out (like you state here) that the risk of a heterosexual guy getting HIV from an HIV infected women during normal, vaginal sex is almost impossible (well, something like 1 in 2500). That risk is even further reduced if you are circumcised. The main risks (again, like you mentioned) are intravenous drug users and homosexuals.

    Also worthwhile mentioning is how HIV/Aids isn’t the death wish everyone makes it out to be, with many people still able to live to an old age with the disease.

    As always, education is the key.

    • TMG

      True that. But condoms are still important for other STIs, pregnancy risks, etc.

  • Anonymous

    why no stats on lesbians?

    • TMG

      Because of their methods of getting it on, female-female transmission is pretty rare. Although, fun fact, their syphillis transmission rates are extremely high and women are more likely to be abused by female partners than by male.

      • half caste

        Wow bitches be crazy…they cant stand each other…imagine the fights when both on the rag….men shall not lay together…but 2 women can lol

  • RASER

    I believe at least in Australia, ALL blood is tested/cleaned before its released

    Cannot trust ass-bandits to tell the truth etc

  • taterearl

    Personally I think sticking reproductive organs in digestive organs is pretty much mental insanity to begin with.

    • A man for all seasons

      You don’t like blow jobs!?!?!? Wow! They’re great, even if the mouth is part of the digestive tract. Anal is great. While there can be problems with messiness, it’s no worse than sex when she’s on the rag. Just put a towel down, and hop in the shower afterwards.

  • pirihuora

    I’d want to see what the stats are like in S-Africa or another African country.

  • Ross

    HIV does not lead to AIDS. Check out http://www.aliveandwell.org

    and “House of Numbers” on youtube
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p-ttLfkZHQ

    http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/

    “Up to today there is actually no single scientifically really convincing evidence for the existence of HIV. Not even once such a retrovirus has been isolated and purified by the methods of classical virology.”

    Dr. Heinz Ludwig Sanger, Emeritus Professor of Molecular Biology and Virology, Max-Planck-Institutes for Biochemistry, Munchen.”

  • IRTdenialist

    I think that the AIDS rates in Africa are very wrong. They don’t even test for HIV over there. If you have a cluster of symptoms, for example: tb, diarrhea and malnutition they will diagnose you with AIDS. It’s crazy, these are simply diseases of being poor.

    • http://www.brockonlife.com Brock

      Um, no. Not true. They give you a proper HIV blood test like the rest of the world and then they diagnose you.

      • Elmer Fuddpacker

        Sorry but this is bullsh!t. In Africa they cannot reliably provide aspirin. They do not test anyone for HIV unless the West is funding a program of some sort to find out how bad the situation is. IRT is right. In the old days some quack doctor would have looked at a corpse and said it was TB. Now they look at it and say it is AIDS. Because that is where the money is.

  • Days of Broken Arrows

    Great post. The ideas here are confirmed by what actual doctors have told me. The media’s politically correct scare tactics are just that.

  • jack

    Having active herpes lesions on your dick greatly increases the chance for female to male transmission during heterosexual vaginal sex.

    Which is also why HIV has a stronger presence in straight black males, and in africans countries.

  • Anonymous

    Who taught you how to make charts? They look like shit.

  • Burt

    Truthful researched articles like this are more important that we realise.

  • Burt

    Of course the real truth is that the very litigious Hilary Koprowski’s Polio vaccine started this plague. (Note the emergence of HIV in the same geographic location in Africa where he was performing his “experiments” and the coincidental timing).

    Man had been in Earth for Millennia and never saw such a plague yet anyone who dares suggest Colonialism and drug company malfeasance is sued to oblivion by Koprowski (with Drug Company funded legal money) and called a conspiracy nut.

    The Origins of AIDS, directed by Peter Chappell and Catherine Peix, follows the evidence laid out by British journalist Edward Hooper in his 1999 book, The River. In it, Hooper proposed (based on nearly two decades of research) that one man’s part in the race to create the polio vaccine launched the AIDS epidemic.

    Hooper charges that during Koprowski’s vaccination campaign, kidneys from chimpanzees infected with SIV were used to grow the virus.
    Koporwski denies it, but his staff year later are now telling a different story.

  • CDW

    I have been in the health field for 30 years +. When hiv/aids started hitting the young male population, I was working in a city where the ER was filled everyday with 20 something men who had sarcoma and pneumonia and such. They were 100% homosexual. At that time I think the stats amounted to 81%gay men, 14% drug user, and the 5% non categorized for HIV. It does not surprise me that the stats may have only shifted by 5% up or down for whom it is that is infected. In the Early 1990′s, our public radio broadcaster did an interview with the scientist from Michigan State who was a co inventor of some anti Aids drugs. He was clear and erudite regarding who was infected and who was not. The radio host could not stand hearing the stats. He was condescending and nasty, but the Doctor made it clear, that behaviour not orientation was the number driver of who got aids, and he wondered if 20 years on, anything would change. I think he now has his answer.

  • jan

    woha. careful there.
    to talk down the risk just by using statistics is dangerous. statistically it’s pretty impossible to win the lottery or be hit by a lighting. yet people do. all. the. time.

    forget the numbers. be aware of how the virus is transmitted.
    the virus is in bodily fluits; it has the highest concentration in blood and sperm, but can also be found in salvia. it is transmitted through exchange of bodily fluits, usually by a fluid entering through lesions in the skin, such as scratches or bites, but also microlesions (really small, tiny lessions you can hardly see).
    there are high-risk behaviours, such as anal sex, sharing needles, dripping infectious fluids on an open wound. almost all other sexual intercourse is low-risk behaviour (note that it’s not entitled ‘no risk behaviour’).

    anal sex causes a lot of microlesions, due to the lack of lubricant fluids; that’s why the risk of catching the virus during anal sex is extremly high. vaginal fluids are a natural lubricant, which make everything smooth, therefore preventing those microlesions, equals lower risk of transmission, but if you have vaginal sex ‘dry’, the risk for microlesions increases and therefore the risk of transmitting virus particals. technically you can get the virus from a blow job – microlesion from biting on the penis + bleeding gum = there you go.

    in short: virus transmission through exchange of bodily fluits, usually through skin lessions. meaning just because you’re a white male who isn’t into anal sex and needles, doesn’t mean you are save by default.

    • JP

      And cue the troll with no understanding of statistics trying to convince us that NAFALT.

      • jan

        i’m a troll for saying be careful nevertheless?

      • Emmanuel Goldstein

        Somewhat. People tailor their behavior to the attendant risks. I’m saying, the risks aren’t as great as you may have been led to believe, so you may want to alter your behavior.

        Eg, men love having unprotected sex, but they worry about getting STDs. If the threat of getting STDs is inflated, and a man discovers this, he may opt to have more unprotected sex, increasing his sexual satisfaction.

  • Stephen

    If you include the rest of the world, the most common way to get HIV is through heterosexual sex.

    http://books.google.ca/books?id=H4Sv9XY296oC&pg=PA745#v=onepage&q&f=false

    The second most frequent mode of HIV transmission is via blood and blood products. (see link above)

    I remember learning about how Arthur Ashe got HIV when he got a bad blood transfusion at a hospital in the 80s and was dead like a year later.

    And damn, Magic must have slept with a lot of women to get HIV. If he had gotten it ten years earlier he’d probably be dead.

    • Elmer Fuddpacker

      Heterosexual sex is not a high risk for HIV anywhere people can test. You can only conclude heterosexual sex is a problem is you rely on estimates for African infection rates. Which are made up. No one knows what is going on in Africa, but they are clearly not as high as people claim. Even if they are, no one knows how it is transmitted in Africa although dirty needles probably play a big role.

      The most common way to get HIV is through anal sex. It is a Gay and/oe drug using disease.

      Magic Johnson was almost certainly on the down-low and just did not want to admit it. So he made some crap up about the number of women he slept with. In reality Johnson was not married, had no obvious girlfriend and somehow he got AIDS? Please.

  • John

    Roosh. Have you ever eatin pussy,if not why not? The greatest pussy I had was with a nurse who had a musle up inside that would grab anything including my tonque. I played with that for a long time while my buddy kissed her and her nipples. I admit the best way to approach it is with a finger and a smell test ; but you still get it checked out medically for std’s etc.

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  • I Love Indians!

    HPV is worse and its estimated 50% of Americans 18 to 48 have it.

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  • TheSwed

    Well homosexuality is unnatural and i personalty find if unconscionable. Also this behavior is a driver of moral/social decay. As we see in history when a “empire(Rome)” or “republic(Athens)” collapse of moral/social traditions is prevalent thought out that society. Look at the Romans for example; during the founding they had strict marital laws (homosexuality was against the law), but near the end such protection against, such depravity was nonexistent. In the found (Romulus) the roman public was heavily religious, which followed strict religious standards. Towards the end a foreign religion took control (Christianity), which changed the very fabric of that society. What was the purpose of saying all of these, well here it is. As a man with a backbone, dont smile and pretend to be accepting of a driving force (homosexuality) that brings destruction to a society over time; unless you want to go the way of Rome.

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