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January 30th, 2013

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American Women Are Mad They Aren’t Courted Anymore

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The NY Times, ever on top of American culture with their n=4 sample sizes, recently published The End Of Courtship. Highlights:

“The word ‘date’ should almost be stricken from the dictionary,” Ms. Silver said. “Dating culture has evolved to a cycle of text messages, each one requiring the code-breaking skills of a cold war spy to interpret.”

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“I’ve seen men put more effort into finding a movie to watch on Netflix Instant than composing a coherent message to ask a woman out,” said Anna Goldfarb, 34, an author and blogger in Moorestown, N.J. A typical, annoying query is the last-minute: “Is anything fun going on tonight?” More annoying still are the men who simply ping, “Hey” or “ ’sup.”

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…the median income for young, single, childless women is higher than it is for men in many of the country’s biggest cities (though men still dominate the highest-income jobs, according to James Chung, the company’s president).  This may be one reason it is not uncommon to walk into the hottest new West Village bistro on a Saturday night and find five smartly dressed young women dining together — the nearest man the waiter. Income equality, or superiority, for women muddles the old, male-dominated dating structure.

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After an evening when she exchanged flirtatious glances with a bouncer at a Williamsburg nightclub, the bouncer invited her and her friends back to his apartment for whiskey and boxed macaroni and cheese. When she agreed, he gamely hoisted her over his shoulders, and, she recalled, “carried me home, my girlfriends and his bros in tow, where we danced around a tiny apartment to some MGMT and Ratatat remixes.”

She spent the night at the apartment, which kicked off a cycle of weekly hookups, invariably preceded by a Thursday night text message from him saying, ‘hey babe, what are you up to this weekend?” (It petered out after four months.)

A lot can be said of this article but there is one point everyone, male and females, must understand: desirable men will not date in a way that punishes their dick. If sending text messages with “Hey” didn’t work, if inviting girls for “weekly hookups” or mac n’ cheese didn’t work, then the highest quality men of any society simply wouldn’t do it. If we were to listen to these girls and apply more courtship rituals to our game, what would happen? We wouldn’t get laid! The girls would construe it as needy and overbearing.

Women can change the dating game for the entire country in just one month. If every woman in America decided to simultaneously refuse aloof advances alphas, and instead fuck men who only took them out to dinner, called them daily, and complimented their appearance, the result would be obvious. Even if you are the most alpha of alpha in your crew, you would be wining and dining girls like a simp to get vagina if that was the only way to score. But that’s not what the women want. They want the Skittles man and they want the man who texts like he has a 6th grade education. And as long as they prefer that, that’s all they’ll get.

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About the Author

has been blogging for several years over at RooshV.com about travel and women. He has also authored books on how to get laid in the United States, South America, and Eastern Europe. He launched Return Of Kings in October of 2012 to serve the needs of masculine men.

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  • Anonymous

    Bring the movies.

    • bringdamovies

      Bring da movies

    • Infantry

      I knew this would up the top. Bring the movies man was always my favourite.

    • Dr. Giggles

      Why not win her over with a 99 cent bag of Cheetos? Saw this on “How to Make it in America” the other day.

    • Old Glory

      Be a skittles man.

    • По реке

      Haha yup, bring da movies man is the first thing I thought of when I read this.

  • http://Gentlemanslut.wordpress.com Gentleman Slut

    “I hate that guys never take me out for dinner. They only text me for hook ups”

    “Do you hook up with them when they text?”

    “Yeah…”

    “It’s a mystery, ain’t it?”

    • LOL!

      Are you saying you want a guy to take you out for dinner. Yet you put yourself out there like a slut because they ask you to be one? Therefore you’re trying to pretend as if you don’t want to be a slut and really look for a genuine guy? I mean c’mon LOL What a load of shit. Try this one dumbass. Go out with the guy who wants to take you out for dinner. Most likely in this economy he is trying to put on a front that he is caring when really he wants to just have sex with you to.

  • http://www.realmikaelryan.blogspot.com Mikael

    the median income for young, single, childless women is higher than it is for men in many of the country’s biggest cities

    Probably my favorite line. I’ve noticed a few wise women who have acknowledged this fact. Basically Feminism strives to put women in power, more money, better jobs, dominance of the sexes whatever. What it does not account for is that men courted traditionally because they had the money and the power. If you give more money to women to where they make 20% more on average then men, then men will not be able to court. Feminism is destroying everything.

    • Wilson

      And Congress will pass more laws to “close the pay gap” and give women “equal pay”, while Obama pushes for women to be allocated 75-100% of college degrees.

      • Mebus

        Feminism likes credentialism. It’s a match made in deepest trenches of the underworld. When everyone is able to get a (worthless) degree, the smartests among us will opt out. There will be nothing for them to gain in college or graduate school anymore because the cost-benefit ratio will be so poor.

        Why would any intelligent male waste multiple years in an environment which curbs any attempt to be creative, to excel, and to develop yourself? It will be like swimming with a piece of concrete chained to your legs.

    • William

      @Mikael

      In the article a woman brags about women advancing financially, but wonders if young men’s dislike of courting is due to the fact that they can’t afford to.
      Woman have more money while men have less, you’d think she’d conclude with telling woman to court men but she doesn’t.

  • dragnet

    The dearth of male investment is an entirely predictable outcome of the changes to the sexual marketplace we’ve seen over the past 50 years. Part of the reason men invested copious emotional/financial resource in the courtship rituals of yesteryear is because there were strong social taboos that prevented women from enjoying the investment without delivering on the implied promise of intimacy. If a woman was wined/dined/courted by too many men without marrying one, she was tarred as a slut and her reputation damaged. This kept the price of sex high (which favored women generally) and prevented unscrupulous women from taking advantage of male investment without consequence (which benefitted most men).

    The limited choice of the 50s have given way to unlimited and consequence-free choices for women today, but they want the same level of investment from guys—this just cannot happen. These days being wined/dined by a guy doesn’t carry any obligation on the part of the woman, so men don’t have any guarantee that the women they’re interested in isn’t just using them. When women have no constraints and no obligations men have no choice but to decrease their own investment. This calculus changes when women finally have some skin in the game—aka, their reputations are at stake or more likely these days, they’ve given up the pussy. That’s when guys are more likely to take a girl out to dinner—although there are no guarantees then either.

    If these gals want the courtship-oriented betas back in the game, then they have to either have to assume old-fashioned female obligations or they have to start fucking betas. There is no other way.

    • http://alphaisassumed.wordpress.com Martel

      Because of the taboos you cite, Alphas used to feign betaness. “Baby, I’m not like that anymore, you changed me.”. Screwing the wrong guy could have SERIOUS consequences, so you had to make her think you cared.

      Now, no consequences, no pretenses. Lines an Alpha used in 1940 would make any guy a beta today.

      Read or watch “dangerous liaisons” to see how much Alpha game has changed.

      • Reemee

        Well then women are better off today then aren’t they Martel? If an alpha in the “good ol’ days” had to lie his way into her heart, but today’s alphas can be truthful and the woman at least knows where she stands (one amongst many rather than the only one), then they are better off.

        Truth is always better than lies even if that truth hurts.

        A woman can be aware then that if she sleeps with an honest polyamorous guy that her chances of contracting an STD are high. She will also be aware that her chances of gaining his exclusive resources should she become preggers with his child, are also less.

        So she can do a cost/benefit analysis.

        She can then, armed with the truth, choose to pass on him and find an authentically monogamous guy.

        All of this is much better than being deceived and giving her heart, mind, body and soul to a poly guy pretending to be mono.

      • P Ray

        Women hate the assholes they don’t like,
        and love the assholes they do like.

    • http://www.mensbusinessassociation.com/Downloads.aspx Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c)

      I recall I was talking with some young men about 5 years ago when I was first out on the “dating” scene after divorce…I was just talking about how I had taken a woman out for dinner twice and found out she was loony tunes and so I moved on.

      One young man looked at me like I had two heads…and I thought he was concerned about the “loony tunes” comment.

      He said “No, I am just amazed you actually bought a woman a meal before you had sex with her, why would you do that?”

      I was a bit surprised so I asked more questions…remember….I had NEVER had a “first date” in my life I was such a novice. The two women I had close relationships with were family friends so there was no “first date”. He explained that only losers would actually buy a woman a mean before having sex with her and that I should stop doing that so as not to spoil it for the other men. He suggested that I make it clear she has to have sex BEFORE she gets a meal.

      I was pretty surprised I can tell you. I am too old to change these things. I so still like to go to dinner and spend some time talking with someone I really like and I am happy to buy such a dinner. I guess I am a bit of a loser like that! LOL!! But I have not given away many dinners these last 5 years….quite often women on a first date in germany pay their own meals…..it is not unusual at all. It is like “we are here to meet each other and find out about each other and there are no conditions so I pay for myself”

    • Banger

      “These days being wined/dined by a guy doesn’t carry any obligation on the part of the woman, so men don’t have any guarantee that the women they’re interested in isn’t just using them. When women have no obligations men have no choice but to decrease their own investment.”

      – Word, bro.

  • What Now

    “Online Marketing Manager”? “Social Media and Blog Manager”? “Branding Coordinator”? Who are these fucking people? These can’t be real jobs.

    • Cesar

      I know this girl whos job is to make professional facebook profiles for “hip and emerging companies.” Her hubby (as she calls him) is a software engineer.

      We’ll see how long it last.

      • Uncle Elmer

        I keep seeing the same stock photos of “hip, young people” when I am searching vendor sites for products. Really makes me think the company is on the cutting edge.

      • Reemee

        Its the “new economy”. Or rather “social economy”.

        Adapt or die.

    • Hipstersstink

      This. The media keeps babbling about more women being in university. Maybe that’s because men know that all that education for those jobs named above just doesn’t cut it. Not a worthwhile investment. How many more useless, non-productive jobs are we going to come up with?

      These women may be wining and dining at fancy restaurants. From what I see they can’t manage money and don’t understand value. It also means they can’t cook.

      • Shawn

        Bitches love eating out and getting eaten out.

  • http://www.progressivemale.com Pete

    Women are like this in all aspects of life. They claim to want something, but they really respond to the opposite most of the time.

    • Shawn

      Cognitive Dissonance.

  • http://Gentlemanslut.wordpress.com Gentleman Slut

    “I never meet any nice men. I really want to get married Sarah, it feels like its time for me”

    “You poor thing. We’ll fix you up. What are you doing this weekend?”

    “Well, usually I hook up with this bouncer, head back to his, and tickle his balls while he eats ready meals”

  • Exacta King

    I hate these articles where they act like women run the world and all the men are overgrown manchildren who just smoke dope and fap. The underlying factor in those stats about women’s incomes is race/class.The cities where women earn the most against men are places like Atlanta and Birmingham; same thing with education: More men than ever are going to college, but more poor women than poor men are going to scohol. Then again its all bullshit, but these upper class white women are still going to alpha fuck beta buck when they want kids.

    http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/in-search-of-the-peter-pan-manboy/

    Dalrock tries to explain some of this false meme.

    • Mark Minter

      I commented exactly about this stat. The difference in bachelors degrees between white men and women is about 4%.

      The difference is greater in post-graduate degrees.

      But the majority of STEM degrees are earned by men, so a larger percentage of bachelors degrees are immediately marketable for men, and many post graduate degrees in STEM fields have little or no payoff compared to the years of experience.

      In Engineering the real payoff comes when you get Professional Engineer certificate and you must begin work in order to get it. Software is a meritocracy and often what is taught in master’s degree programs is lagging in the tech that is implemented on the job.

      Many of the undergraduate degrees that women get are inherently useless or low valued. A woman that gets a management degree from a school of business can get a job as an assistant manager in a retail business. They only marketable undergraduate degree from a school of business is an accounting and then only if that is parlayed in passing the CPA exam. So many women have to stay in school to get a marketable degree. A bachelors degree in Sociology will not get you that job in the Parole Department or in Welfare Administration for the state government. A masters is almost required.

      In software no one ever mentioned my degree. I was all “what you have worked on?” I wonder if they even look at the education section. Maybe to see if take any special training after college in some specific language or product. But not college.

      The real growth in the number of degrees is coming from Latina and Black women. Black women get 12% of all female degrees compared to a demographic percentage of blacks in America as 9%. And Latinas have doubled the amount of degrees earned by Latinas in the past 10 years.

      The Dalrock article referenced shows that at every age group men earn the same money as women. He did this a way to dispel the myth that women are doing so much better than men. This might be local to a specific situation, maybe New York women that work in advertising.

      But the reality is that it always been this way. When I was younger than 25, women were able to get jobs that paid more than what young men could get. There was always that office job or that waitress job in a restaurant with high tips, cocktail waitress, even stripper. I had to work some shit job in a kitchen or with a shovel and they paid me minimum wage.

      So this would force me back into college. When I would get sick of the poverty and take a semester off, I realized the futility of it and went back to school. I used to joke that my ex-wife would complain how boring her job was crunching numbers. And I would compare that to my job in engineering and how varied and interesting it was compared to the shit work that women do. The world forced me into higher and more technical education because I had to pussy to trade for an easy existence early on in my 20s. I was better looking that 90% of my peers and still there was no way other than work and preparation. Women get these early cushy jobs that go nowhere.

      So I think a lot of this shit, levels off after the men and women get to be 35. She has no sexual market value to parlay into easy cash, getting the job merely because she is cute and a girl. And the investments of the men start to tell and pay off.

      Remember that women read what women write and women that write read what other women write. If you say something over and over, it becomes the truth.

      I read the same article with Red Pill eyes and I saw it all as a great big Hamsterbation.

      So fine, maybe men aren’t springing big for First Dates, but if you actually get into a relationship with one, meaning that after 3 or 4 times together and she has shit tested the fuck out of you to find you how much cash you make and decides to up the ante with you, then the cash transfers fucking start.

      The manosphere writer Solomon II, from the Solomon Group blog, did a calculation on how much he was spending on girlfriends and as a conservative estimate, it came to $1400 a month.

      He said the typical single woma by the time she is 30 years old has had $200,000 injected into her life by men.

      $200,000

      So waah, those men are wining and courting us anymore. Waaah.

      It still pays to have a vagina. I somewhat agree with what this writer says about Colombian women. I have tons of experience with them. But they are hypergamistic also. Remember, that the real reason for IMBRA was there were all these domestic violence charges levied by foreign brides. What was really going on was that if the girl charged the man with DV, even if there was no conviction, then she would not be “forced” to live in fear that she would have her conditional residency revoked, so Immigration would change the Conditional status to Permanent if she had a police report of a DV charge.

      And the length of time required normally to change it is 2 years. And the length of time of the average marriage between an American and a Foreign woman.

      3 years.

      Bitches are bitches, no matter the nationality. One PhD dissertation from a Colombian woman at FIU stated that many Colombian women FEIGN traditional values because the men that come to Colombia searching for a bride do not want a feminist.

      If your foreign woman stays with you, it is because you are a better alternative than what she can get on her own. Never forget that. Never. Her Hypergamy is acutely developed and far more mercenary than even an American woman. I see too many Russian women that are young and cute on Millionaire Match. And some of the biggest and most entitled bitches on MillionMatch are Colombians (MM of all places!!! Even with rich men, women are bitchy and entitled). Colombian men refer to a type of woman as “interesada” and avoid them like the plague and lot of women that come here are exactly this type. An interesada makes an American Gold Digger look like Mother Teresa.

      I like Colombianas far more than American women, far more. But they are not nirvana and some of the same shit with American women is waiting on you if you bring a Colombian into America. I, personally would move there. They are my favorite group of women. But I would never marry one and bring her here. Never. You can’t know if they are acting or not. You can’t.

      • Dr. Giggles

        Great insightful comments, man. What the Beta Times fails to see is that most women are getting the 30 – 40k dead end jobs, that require little more than getting along with the woman from HR who’s hiring them. What man would take pride in that existence? Unless he had women injecting 200K in token gifts and dinner over a 10 year span

        What’s funny is how every article that’s written on this subject mentions that men still make the highest paying salary jobs like it’s some mystery. What these journalists dare not talk about is the meritocracy inherent to the highest paid positions. It’s all about what you do, not who you know. That’s the invisible hand which separates the average man from woman in the workplace. The solitude and singular focus required to complete a hard task would drive any social, multitasking woman insane.

        As for your second point regarding Colombian women, they are hyper-hypergamistic. My sisters were born there and came to the US at an early age. Both are married, one to a pathologist who started making 400K this year. The other works at Cisco making 200K+. I think it’s a genetic thing. In any case, don’t go into Colombia with expectations to wife someone up and you’ll be fine. Remember, the book says Bang Colombia, not Marry Colombia. It’s rule No. 1 at Le Chateau and it’s been repeated here countless times.

      • http://alphaisassumed.wordpress.com Martel

        And I love how women always refer to the high percentage of male CEO’s as evidence of male priviledge. It’s great to be a CEO, but what the hell good does that do ME? Just because somebody else who has a dick benefits in this economy is somehow signal’s that I’M priviledged?

      • Take The Red Pill

        That happens to be the fairy tale that feminists have been spewing since the 1970′s.

      • Earl

        Amen!

      • P Ray

        Software is a meritocracy and often what is taught in master’s degree programs is lagging in the tech that is implemented on the job.
        Dream on.
        Does your manager know how to program?
        How many algorithms has he implemented?
        This is alpha males telling beta males “put in more work FOR ME, and YOU will be rewarded”.
        I believe managers get paid multiples of what staff make.

  • Red Pill

    “They want the Skittles man and they want the man who texts like he has a 6th grade education.”

    It’s funny ’cause it’s true!

    Mac & cheese game…who knew??!!!!???

  • Dillon

    Another reason men don’t court more enthusiastically is the presence of various other men in an average woman’s life.

    • Mebus

      Indeed, you will be just ‘one of the many’. Why invest in courtship when you see some of your peers can get ‘it’ cheaper… or even for free?

    • Red Pill

      This is my #1 reason for avoiding any type of “romance”. I’d feel like a sucker.

      • Anonymous

        Amen, brother.

        This x 1,000.

    • http://www.facebook.com/james.lalone.7 EyeMcreepy Lalone

      Amen. I agree with this 100 percent.

  • Uncle Elmer

    Another fact well commented on : they eschew courtship while young and nubile and have lots of suitors, but expect to get it after they crest 30 and are looking for a husband.

    • Anonymous

      Yup. We can only wonder how many other bouncer’s apartments “Lindsay, a 25-year-old online marketing manager in Manhattan,” did the “Mac n Cheese” in….

      And then, once she hits 34…..

  • Fake Rake

    It should no longer amaze me how clueless modern American women are. They have been handed a loaded gun but haven’t bothered to check the chambers or take any lessons. All the while they treat the world as a firing range, leaving a wake of bodies in their path.

    Then, they get curiously pissed when they shoot themselves in the foot, come up lame, can no longer compete, and wonder what the hell happened.

    And though I should not be amazed at their idiotic, self-defeating behavior, I cannot but shake my head constantly. How many good men these women turn their noses up at only to complain they cannot find a good man. Hell, I see this all the time and I actually do okay with women compared to average guys. But, I also find constant cracks in my game modern women exploit or dismiss, when in fact those that finally give me the time of day wonder why I haven’t been snatched up yet.

    What do women want? Everything

    • http://www.mensbusinessassociation.com/Downloads.aspx Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c)

      What do women want?

      “Woman want hot ice”…arabic proverb apparently.

      • Banger

        Nice ;)

      • По реке

        Hahaha nice one, I’ll be remembering that.

  • Chase

    Really pissed me off when they tried to blame it on men being poor while simultaneously putting in a jibe about how jobs are nevertheless totally sexist! Men aren’t idiots, and rich or poor they aren’t spending $250 on a second date. Enjoy your girls nights at high end restaurants while your male colleagues get drunk at dive bars with women much younger and hotter than you.

  • Solomon

    women have discounted themselves entirely, leaving nothing of worth to inspire a man to give a damn.

    Not sure why they can’t do the math on that.

    What dumbass would engage in courting rituals with whores- especially FREE whores?

    Marriage 2.0 is an arrangement we don’t want, and courting’s specific purpose is to move towards marriage. That being said, we wouldn’t even ‘court’ luscious virgins if we still intended to avoid marriage.

    Women should be grateful- at least we have dropped the pretense and dishonesty. Isn’t that what they wanted? Honesty?

    They aren’t being courted because they aren’t worth courting.

    There’s some honesty for ya

    • P Ray

      They’re too old to be courted.
      Over 18 you can be sure she’s had more pricks than a dartboard.

  • Hugh G. Rection

    All that is easily explained with the Sexual Marketplace theory, but of course the NYT would never solicit a male opinion or even acknowledge the dynamics that are at play. Easier to just say it’s the men’s fault for being poor. It doesn’t make sense to wine and dine a woman who gave it up for free in her prime, you’d have to be an absolute chump. Imagine you’re Joe Beta, take one of those cunts to an expensive restaurant, shell out $100 or whatever and listen to her inane stories about her make work job (Social Media Manager? That’s glorified customer service). The next day you learn that some bouncer took her home and banged her for free.

    It’s like a vendor who hands out his fresh fruit for free and then starts whining because customers don’t come and buy the rotten fruit for double the price…

    • Mark

      That article was pre-packaged and pitched by a connected PR pro whose clients are linked to in the article. If manosphere blogs want to be featured, they need to learn the currency of of lazy reporters in mainstream media: quotable people, linkbait storylines, etc.

      Check out Guerilla Marketing and HARO (Help a Reporter Out). And learn to spin red pill truths in a femcentric way.

      • String

        Mark, excellent comment.

      • Hugh G. Rection

        Or just stir up the shit like Roosh did ;)

  • logicwontgetmelaid

    I remember telling a friend during a conversation (pre-red pill) that my greatest fear in life was getting tricked into marrying a woman with an extensive sexual past and having to work hard for what others got for nothing. The red pill is built into every guy’s DNA, and it’s getting harder for men to suppress it every day.

    • Mark

      Seems we’re all afraid of “strong independent women.” We clearly need reeducation.

      • logicwontgetmelaid

        Seems we’re all afraid of not attracted to “strong independent women.” We clearly need reeducation.

        That’s what’s really going on.

      • BLAOMAN8

        Strong? Independent? And still dependent on either a man or the government… Strong and Independent … Strongly offensive to real men and very independent of reality… MORONS.

      • http://twitter.com/HiramJGoldstein Hiram J Goldstein II

        But you repeat yourself. The government is funded by men.

    • Anon

      I remember one scene from my early childhood, about 5 years old. I visited the local swimming pool and teased a girl of the same age very hard. She obviously liked it. Then my mother messed it up by dragging me away and scolding me for it.

      TL;DR You’re right. Men aren’t born blue pill, they’re made blue pill.

    • casaanova

      Unfortunately, most men WILL be tricked into marrying a woman with an extensive sexual past (and I mean ‘tricked’ in every sense of the word). It’s almost guaranteed if you have no knowledge of basic game/ red-pill, or you’ve been starved of sex all through your 20s. You need game at some point in your life; it’s inevitable

  • http://www.mensbusinessassociation.com/Downloads.aspx Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c)

    Yes…a friend of mine sent me this article the other day. I laughed really hard. What it is talking about was entirely predictable…and was predicted by many. Women are chasing the alphas and only accepting beta chumps to pay the bills.

    What most people seem to have missed is that in a POST feminist society the alphas do very well. The betas drink themselves to death, commit lots of crimes, and die early.

    If anyone wants to know what a post feminist society looks like … do your research on the Ukraine…Roosh was there….I am sure he can repeat stories of “all the men are bad husbands” from the Ukraine.

    • P Ray

      Women are chasing the alphas and only accepting beta chumps to pay the bills.
      That only works if the beta chumps ignore the reality that younger women are better than the one his age, who probably has economic issues, stds, mental problems and maybe a kid.

  • Anonymous

    “The word ‘date’ should almost be stricken from the dictionary,” Ms. Silver said. “Dating culture has evolved to a cycle of text messages, each one requiring the code-breaking skills of a cold war spy to interpret.”

    Because making your intentions blatantly obvious that you want to date her doesn’t work. Keeping it nebulous makes her wonder.

    “I’ve seen men put more effort into finding a movie to watch on Netflix Instant than composing a coherent message to ask a woman out,” said Anna Goldfarb, 34, an author and blogger in Moorestown, N.J. A typical, annoying query is the last-minute: “Is anything fun going on tonight?” More annoying still are the men who simply ping, “Hey” or “ ’sup.”

    “men” vs. “beta males”. Remember, “beta males” don’t even register on her radar.

    After an evening when she exchanged flirtatious glances with a bouncer at a Williamsburg nightclub, the bouncer invited her and her friends back to his apartment for whiskey and boxed macaroni and cheese. When she agreed, he gamely hoisted her over his shoulders, and, she recalled, “carried me home, my girlfriends and his bros in tow, where we danced around a tiny apartment to some MGMT and Ratatat remixes.”

    She spent the night at the apartment, which kicked off a cycle of weekly hookups, invariably preceded by a Thursday night text message from him saying, ‘hey babe, what are you up to this weekend?” (It petered out after four months.)

    The bouncer did bang her for four months… duh.

    • logicwontgetmelaid

      I especially loved the part about the bouncer. It writes him in a negative light even though he succeeded where every other guy failed that night, and probably for 4 months after. In the same sentence where they’re describing a girl fall for his game, they cast the guy doing it as a villain who should be ashamed. The miracles of insanity the hamster can pull off are truly astounding.

      • Hugh G. Rection

        Heh a friend (beta) told me a story once about a woman he took out on an actual date. She told him later that he’s “special” and that’s why she didn’t want to sleep with him “outright”. Turns out one day after he took her out she banged some bartender ;) Most women won’t realize the cruelty of this, or if they did would care…

    • http://staycationland.wordpress.com/ Matthew Walker

      “More annoying still are the men who simply ping, “Hey” or “ ’sup.””

      And by “annoying”, she means “mysteriously irresistible”.

  • Kardo

    Honestly, the only articles I like by Roosh are articles about not getting laid. He has much more experience in doing things to wind up at home and jacking it than he does at actually getting laid. He’s like a sexual crash test dummy.

    • Unending Improvement (@UnendImprov)

      Seems that way at times.

  • RH

    Add “Nah” Man to the list too.

    • Hugh G. Rection

      Nah

  • moses

    “…the median income for young, single, childless women is higher than it is for men in many of the country’s biggest cities”

    Erm, explain to me again how women are “oppressed by the patriarchy” and make only $.77 for each $1 a man makes?

    • P Ray

      Women are oppressed when they earn more than men because men won’t pay for them,
      and they are oppressed when men earn more than them because she has competition for that man.
      Women are always oppressed, it seems.

  • shiva1008

    None of the quotes from this article show that women are mad that they aren’t being courted. It’s just saying that the mode of courtship has changed.

    Same thing with Girls. They don’t seem to yearn for the days when women were properly courted. It’s just like “this is how it is now.”

    Maybe the generation who is like 35 now is starting to feel regret. But they grew up with somewhat traditional ideas of romance. The generation that’s 25 now, maybe they just won’t care. They’ll go full on nihilistic matriarchy. I see the nihilism in the 25 y/o males as well… no higher ideals.

    I haven’t seen Girls, but from reading about it, it seems like there’s little social commentary or evaluation. The whole ethos is, “this is just how things are now. Things happen and they have no deeper meaning.”

    • taterearl

      It’s a good show to watch if you need something to cure insomnia. Even the sex scenes are depressing.

      • J

        Interesting quote about the difference in 35/25 year olds. I’m 30 myself and had traditional ideas of romance. I did some gay shit in high school and first few years of college, till I was in some long distance thing where I found out she was sleeping w/ someone else and that started me down my current lifestyle now where I’m MUCH happier now.

    • Reemee

      I think you’re right, Shiva.

      Today’s young people in their teens and 20s don’t know anything different and they don’t pine for it.

      The Sexual Revolution is completed with this generation.

  • http://dannyfrom504.wordpress.com dannyfrom504

    i’m running a 4 part series called “the panty game”. it’s how to game a woman based on what kind/color panties she’s wearing. NEVER had a fail. and if it does, it shows where you stand and you don’t waste your time. it varies with day and night game.

    if i can play the panty game and get the sex in a week or two. why the hell would i take her on a date? she comes over to my place, i cook dinner (which costs under $20), get her a glass or two of wine….

    and she’s desert. the beauty is, once a girl’s slept with you, she’s NOT shamed for sleeping with you in the future. hamster logic 101- “she’s not a slut for sleeping with you again. she’s just recycling dick.”

    • Take The Red Pill

      DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER!
      BE CAREFUL! If she has ONE drink and she has ANY regrets at ANY time afterwards — you are in danger of a FALSE RAPE accusation!
      What actually happened doesn’t matter — it’s all about what she said happened!
      BE CAREFUL!

    • Earl

      so how do I play?

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  • Anonymous

    If courting a girl worked. There would be more men doing it if it meant getting laid.

    The only good thing i got from the article is that its evidence that more and more men are starting to get clued up about whats really going on.

    Its only a matter of time until girls start to take responsibility (doubtful) and change their ways.

  • Adam
    • Titanium

      “he always responds in onomatopoeia.”

      Hilarious.

  • Anonymous

    “Women can change the dating game for the entire country in just one month. If every woman in America decided to simultaneously refuse aloof advances alphas, and instead fuck men who only took them out to dinner, called them daily, and complimented their appearance, the result would be obvious.”

    Problem is that they DON’T think. They DON’T stop and consider their actions. Just like beta guys don’t consider that their tactics of ‘nice guying’ isn’t working and figure out ways to try and change that.

  • Franko

    there are just too many mean and very nasty women nowadays, especially that many of them have a very serious ATTITUDE PROBLEM and have become very difficult to talk too.

    • Mike James

      they outsmarted themselves… they wanted space… they got it…
      They helped emaculate several generations of men… now there aren’t as many real men anymore… betas and manginas will worship the ground they walk on… thought they would enjoy the freedom they have…

      • P Ray

        They want to emasculate the men they don’t want,
        making the “winners” stand out.
        Women want men to sacrifice for them …
        so that they can pick out the winners easily,
        and the men they don’t want are at a disadvantage when it comes to resources and strength so that they can’t retaliate against being used.

  • Flawlesgam3

    American Women Are Mad They Aren’t Courted Anymore?? American Women are retarded. Common sense, a man wants a woman with feminine characteristics men don’t want to date men – at least straight men don’t, these articles should interview real men to find out what we want.

    • Mike James

      straight-up retarded, deluded and CRAZY!!!!

    • BaldheadedFoo

      the problem is the media doesn’t care what MEN want.

  • Mike James

    oh well… they have gotten their utopian ideals…
    Having ain’t as pleasing as wanting.

  • https://librachronicles.wordpress.com/ Ronnie @ Libra Chronicles

    True story. Women are making their own beds. But this isn’t anything new. They’ll bitch about the cheeziness of the lack of men being “Gentlemen” and Courting them, but in reality they don’t want the Gentlemen any more. They want guys to be fun, exciting, maybe a little douchey but whatever keep them on an emotional rollercoaster.

    Jack Daniels and Macaroni and Cheese. I’m stealing that one.

  • Reemee

    “American Women Are Mad They Aren’t Courted Anymore”

    Then they need to leave the States or date immigrants.
    Seriously, romance is not at all dead in other parts of the world.
    And the men are hotter too.

    • P Ray

      They are mad they are not being courted when they can no longer attract the hot guys.
      In other words, the average guys must prostate themselves before the alpha’s former whore.

  • Anonymous

    they aint worth courting…borderline hoes

  • VeryMuchTrue

    the way that many women have changed for the worse nowadays, who would want to marry them anyway.

  • HowRight

    the way that many women have changed today, it is really hard to meet a good one to settle down with.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005775312163 John Johnson

    You couldn’t be more wrong. Women seem to wrongfully think: If I demand more, I will get more. Not true.

    Today, a man who is only marginally successful can fairly easily end up with a highly successful young woman. (I’m talking success in terms of education & net worth.)

    But what usually happens is both sexes engage in a series of marginally crappy relationships with one another, neither side caves, and then they find themselves so old it becomes embarrassing not to have moved on in life. Then they get married.

    Usually, the woman “marries down” in a real sense, but is able to convince herself that this isn’t the case because none of her girlfriends are doing any better. (That is, if every girl marries a guy who’s not good enough for her, it doesn’t feel so bad to be one among many women doing this.)

    If you’re a woman, demand what you’re worth. Then take it when it is offered. Holding out for that elusive golden deal (I want him to be emotionally mature AND have money!) often results in you having to marry a man much older than yourself.

    That may work for the first decades of your life. So maybe it’s worth it. But you’ll die decades after he does, and probably won’t have as many children and grandchildren as your grandmother did, and even with a social network far more extensive that that which you will enjoy, even SHE couldn’t find a man to marry her that late in life. The good news: You probably will die of loneliness much sooner than she did. Which sounds macabre but is a mixed blessing in this case.

    My advice to young women is basically the same as that of Tom Papa: “Find someone you can sleep next to without throwing up, and then marry [him].” I’m being facetious, but yannowutimean.

  • Jeff Cummings

    Today American women ….not worth it

  • BaldheadedFoo

    American women have only themselves to blame for what has transpired in the dating world. They have largely become intolerable and a needless hassle. For example, women are frequently conflicted, emotionally unstable, narcissistic, manipulative, and self-victimizing, such as the author of this article. I’m actually surprised more men haven’t turned to just masturbating and bypassed intercourse altogether based on the comments from men you usually see on stories like this. Attention media: men are just as frustrated with women these days, if not even more so! There is even a growing movement called MGTOW (Men going their own way) where they have abandoned dating altogether. Also, notice that American men are the ones who usually look to foreign brides and keep that business booming, not the other way around.

  • Joe

    most of the women today want a man with a very large bank account, and it is very hard for them to accept the man for who he is like they did in the past.

  • Jim

    they seem to be going for their own sex nowadays anyway.

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