Body Zyzz

January 14th, 2013

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Is Zyzz A Role Model Or A Bad Influence?

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There is no figure more polarizing in the eyes of young men today than deceased bodybuilder Aziz Shavershian. A tall and originally very skinny ectomorph, Aziz began posting videos on Youtube in 2007 documenting his transformation from scrawny teenager to shredded sensation. Zyzz attracted a cult following on the internet, particularly among male, teenage Australian gymgoers, who sought to emulate not only his physique, but the success with women produced by both his body and internet fame.

On one hand, Zyzz single-handedly made bodybuilding popular again among teenage boys, which is no mean feat in a culture where brazen displays of masculinity are stigmatized by the feminist establishment. Thanks to Zyzz, today’s young men are much open to the idea of “getting shredded” than their older counterparts, offering hope that masculinity is not on it’s way to being dead and buried in the 21st century English speaking world.

I can safely say that my motivation to train goes far beyond that of merely impressing people, it is derived from the feeling of having set goals and achieving them and outdoing myself in the gym.

Thanks to Zyzz, hordes of young men have embarked on a journey of mastery and embraced positive masculinity while men such as Roosh chose to pursue the journey of game and men like Tim Ferris pursued entrepreneurship.  Just like improving your game or building a business, body building encourages young men to better themselves and gain satisfaction from the goals they have achieved through sheer effort and persistence over an extended period of time, allowing those who take it to truly become Men.

While Zyzz should be commended, his fame is not without controversy. It is almost certain that Zyzz’s aesthetics were the result of heavy steroid and Human Growth Hormone (HGH) usage. On top of the questionable circumstances of his death (a heart attack in a Bangkok sauna at the age of 22), his elder brother “Chestbrah” was arrested for possession of steroids in 2011 and photos circulated on the internet depicting Zyzz being injected in the butt.  Nobody is fooled that it was a flu shot. I know a guy who started taking steroids at a very young age during the peak of Zyzz’s fame in the months following his death. How many other young men have started taking steroids and put their health in jeopardy due to Zyzz’s own bad example?

U mirin’ brah?

Zyzz owed his success to pumping his body full of dangerous substances, and used his steroid-fuelled physique to work part-time as a male stripper. Zyzz not only “cheated” on his journey, but engaged in the most degrading and anti-masculine profession there is: being a rent-boy. While Zyzz no doubt enjoyed the fruits of his fame before his sudden death, his fleeting internet fame and lifestyle choices should not be taken as an example to follow by today’s young men.

While Zyzz enjoyed a few years of unlimited access to young, tight women and no doubt had a blast with his crew before he died, he was never able to build any significant wealth from his an internet fame that will quickly be forgotten. Young men should follow Zyzz’s example in regards to starting on their own journey of mastery whether it be game or business or weight lifting, but they should also learn from his mistakes and avoid taking perilous and unsustainable shortcuts.

Do not take the easy road. Do not let yourself down. Build your success the right away so you can enjoy the satisfaction brought to you by achieving your goals through hard work and sheer persistence. That’s what I’ve learned from Zzyz.

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  • http://30daystox.com XDays

    I’m one of the many young men who got into bodybuilding because of Zyzz, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. Even though I admire Zyzz and think he had a pretty awesome life, I would never want be like him in any manner aside from the physical aspect.

    Late summer of 2011 was the first time, since high school basketball, that I started working out. At the time I knew almost nothing about nutrition, getting into a lifting routine, or most other basics of weight training (I grew up in an area where outdated bro-science was accepted as fact). As such, I was forced to research and experiment with tons of diets and exercises; eventually finding what worked best for me. By the end of the year I managed to develop a six-pack and biceps. To me that was like winning Mr. Olympia, I couldn’t have been prouder.

    Had I done steroids, I’m sure that I’d have gotten a lot bigger than I did (looking back, my first year physique was anything but impressive). But I would have missed out on the entire journey and learned nothing from my experience.

    tl;dr: I admire Zyzz for what he did, not how he did it.

    • http://thesoloist1.wordpress.com Solo

      Co-sign this.

      Zyzz has done more for body building in 3 years than MRM has done for men in 30!

      • shiva1008

        So what have you done, punk? First do something useful, then you can criticize. And no writing a blog doesn’t count, because MRMs have blogs.

        It’s pretty ridiculous that Roosh’s followers ridicule MRMs, when Roosh and his followers agree with them on 90% of points. If you weren’t demoniac, you’d be pooling efforts with them. But you prefer to take the irrational female route and criticize, because they are unpopular, and you take strength from ridiculing those who are unpopular.

        Also, why does Roosh advertise on The Spearhead? Isn’t that an MRM site?

        Fools.

  • Uncle Elmer

    Never heard of him, but a sad story. It ain’t nice to fool Mother Nature. Stay away from roids guys. Whatever chemicals you put into your body will screw with your natural feedback mechanisms.

    You don’t have to be “buff”, just physically fit. I see a lot of young men these days who are overdoing it. Seek a dancer’s body, along with the moves.

    Dancing is far better for your “game”. If your muscles are interfering with graceful dance moves, they are too damn big. The contact with women during dance also pumps you full of their biochemicals (“pheremones”), which have far better effect on you than any steroids.

    Throughout my life I have had “body builders” make threatening postures at me. They never do shit. It’s the quiet, scrawny little guys that scare me. Naturally big fellows are like teddy bears. They just want to be hugged.

    • Samseau

      +1 dancing game

      • Uncle Elmer

        My son Hermann, now a “frat boy” , started Ballroom 101 today. I feel like dropping in but I really have gotten too old for them. Glad I spent so much time with those gals before I became obviously older than their fathers.

  • anon1

    roids and hgh are more of an end of life choice when the negatives are minimal because you’re already on a kind of health decline anyway.

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_N2EyyrA_LPs/SycyohPY_vI/AAAAAAAAFGM/NSLe3kg04ok/s400/JeffreyLifeAP_450x300.jpg (image of the famous HGH doctor)

    so steroids and HGH have a time and a place. but not in youth.

    • Ed

      I agree, as the Gen Xers start hitting their 50,60s and beyond there is going to be an explosion of this. That is the only smart way to use them. Given a choice between wasting away over along period of time or having a good few years I think most would take the last option. The

  • Strickland

    I can’t see how being a ridiculous poser and cheater could make you a role model at all. There are some clear differences between being a boy and being a man, and those differences become more than evident if you look at him. Be influenced by true men.

    And being only 22 is not an “excuse”. I knew guys at the same age that had a mature behavior.

    Let’s say that getting a nice body with drugs plus some good genetics is not a big of an achievement.

    Only really stupid and empty women like guys like this. And I definitely don’t care for them.

    • http://www.percyruxman.com Ruxman

      +1 Zyzz being a poser. He’s a show pony, he’s trying to validate himself, he’s not working out for himself you can see that with all the pictures and how he posers in photos. He is a sheep dressed as a wolf.

  • pdwalker

    A young male who thought he had nothing to lose, and everything to gain – how sad.

  • Wilson

    Women die from getting breast implants too. He had 0 chance of becoming a fitness model without steroids; maybe if the government didn’t pass stupid regulations he would have had better medical monitoring, but it would rather see him dead than buff.

    • Madvillain

      Yeah it’s a shame, he could have accomplished similar results without the steroids. It would have probably taken longer and required more work, but he would have enjoyed the side-benefit of not being dead right now.

      • Richard

        Correct!!!

      • dat bro

        no he actually couldn’t.

        nattys (save for extreme genetic exceptions) can’t put on 205 lbs at 6’1″ and 7-8% bodyfat.

        To have an extreme of a cut at 8% they would lose too much muscle and wouldn’t be able to hold their physique at 205 lbs.

        There is one compound Zyzz used that makes 205 6’1″ 8% BF possible:

        Trenbolone Acetate
        Trenbolone Acetate
        Trenbolone Acetate.

        “natural” body builders can reach similar stats with respect to height/weight, however it would be a MAJOR accomplishment if they could maintain it at 10% Bodyfat. 10%-12% bodyfat is fairly aesthetic, with 12-13% being the “abercrombie model” look.

      • Anonymous

        Dat bro – truth!

  • Hammer

    This is a good influence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bhm9ZvBuU8

    Four time Mr. Natural Universe.

    • Stuki Moi

      People with genetics waaaaaay outside the norm (as in, being Mr. Universe) may well be good role models as far as lifestyle goes, but trying to train like them is just as futile and silly as trying to train like juicers while staying natural.

      If by “good influence” you mean someone to emulate, most people would be much better off finding someone with genetics more like them, who have still achieved quite a lot. Like say, if you’re 5’9” and want to play basketball, look to other shorter guys, not some 7 footer who dominates the NBA.

  • Phinn

    >>> “It is almost certain that Zyzz’s aesthetics were the result of heavy steroid and Human Growth Hormone (HGH) usage.”

    Almost?

    Look, it’s obvious he took steroids. The only reason steroid use is ever a topic of debate is because the government decided to make its use a felony. So, people feel the need to hide it. They lie because the fascist police state we live in forces people to lie.

    Steroids are not “cheating.” There is no “cheating” in the realm of fame and being sexually attractive to young women because there are no rules.

    It’s one thing to enter a competition that bans the use of steroids as one of its rules, but then break those rules. That’s just lying, which only weak losers do when they can’t win according to the rules.

    But there’s nothing remotely wrong or unethical about taking a drug to make your personal bodybuilding more effective. Zyzz never agreed to abide by any rules of competition.

    Steroids are just testosterone. Scientists found ways to add esters to the testosterone molecule, in order to increase its otherwise short half-life in the bloodstream. But the active molecule is always the same — testosterone.

    Why is it a Schedule III substance? It’s what makes men men.

    The reason is not safety. Cars are many times more dangerous, and yet the government has no problem building more roads and encouraging more driving, despite the fact that 100 people die by driving per day in the USA.

    Besides, steroids can be taken safely. The reason they kill sometimes is because they take doses that are many times larger than what is safe. Young men will do this because the body reacts to the presence of increased testosterone, and your testes atrophy. So, when you stop the cycle, your nuts are weaker than before. You lose the benefits quickly, so you feel like you’re sliding backwards.

    The only real problem with steroids is the risk of this psychological addiction — the panic that you’re going to fall back into the status of being weak (i.e., rejected by women).

    I submit that the reason steroids have been treated by the government (and their beta enablers) as though they are DANGEROUS TO CIVILIZATION is simple — because they work.

    Today’s corporatist-feminist government hates the fact that men can become strong and powerful and attractive to women without having to first prove themselves.

    The modern State (i.e., women and beta males) hates steroids for the same reason they hate Game — it allows any man to become more attractive. This power prevents women from being able to distinguish between inferior and superior males. It lets JUST ANYONE appear to be a genetically-superior male.

    The Feminine Imperative can’t tolerate this. To them, that’s like letting people have the power to print money from their home laser printers. They alone want the ability to declare who is an alpha male and who isn’t.

    Steroid use doesn’t break anyone’s rules, other than those set down by (a) sports and (b) women. Abide by the rules of sports, if you choose to play. But women’s rules? Forget it. I didn’t agree to play their game.

    As for Zyzz being a good role model? He looks like a homosexual. Male strippers are not good role models for men.

    • dat bro

      A++ post.

    • Hugh G. Rection

      The problem is, if you abide by the rules of your sport while no one else does you are going to lose. Nobody can tell me that any of the Mr. Olympia or Mr. Universe contestants are all natural. Same goes for most pro sports.

      As for steroids, the problem I think is that they are far more readily accessible (even though illegal) than information on how to use them, especially since a lot of the costumers are too stupid to understand the subject matter to any degree and have no one qualified to administer. And well, young men think they are invincible and that the worthwhile portion of their life is over by the age of 30 anyways.

      • Phinn

        “The problem is, if you abide by the rules of your sport while no one else does you are going to lose. Nobody can tell me that any of the Mr. Olympia or Mr. Universe contestants are all natural. Same goes for most pro sports.”

        I completely agree. Most professional sports have a completely hypocritical stance on steroids — publicly they ban them, but tacitly they allow them (and certainly profit by their competitors’ extraordinary abilities).

        The people who get screwed are the second and third-tier competitors, because the marquee players are too valuable to bust.

        Even women’s tennis, which is not exactly a power sport, has a steroid problem. Look at Serena Williams and Samantha Stosur, and tell me what you see.

        This is what the government’s “ban” has actually accomplished — forced it all underground.

        That’s what any governmental act of prohibition does — you end up with an instant black market, with all of its attendant problems, like shoddy quality control, sporadic violence (drug gangs cause most gun deaths in the USA), a total lack of reputable guidance about their use, and an almost complete halt of scientific research and development about ways to improve the product.

    • seedless

      Women cheat everyday when it comes to their looks. Fake face, fake body, clothes, makeup, implants…. And even in the professional competition world of modeling and miss universe pageants. If a guy wants to even the playing field while not in competition what does it matter?

    • Ross

      AMEN! AMEN! :) Thank you for pointing this out! :) Testosterone is illegal ’cause women who hate men, want it to be!

  • V

    Zyzz worked out 6 days a week and was always on a diet, saying he accomplished everything through steroids is the same excuse fat people give for never starting in the first place. Also, he did of a heart defect he was born with, so his steroid use or possible lack thereof probably would have done nothing to his life expectancy, poor bastard was born as a ticking time bomb.

  • http://gentlemanslut.wordpress.com Gentleman Slut

    Zyzz was a legend. A God-damn motherfucking legend.

    A male-stripper as the ‘most degrading and anti-masculine profession there is’? I don’t buy it. Sorry. I smell the stench of haterism. Zyzz understood the aspect of the Game that is Aesthetics, and he took that and ran with it. And he was successful. Wild, crazy, more-arse-than-a-toilet-seat levels of success. And you’re gonna judge him because some teenager may use steroids, or because he took his wang out in front of a crowd of screaming women? Really?

    Arnie took steroids. Overeem. Sonnen. Bonds. Zyzz was a grown man and made his own decision. He owes nothing to a group of anonymous teenage boys on the internet looking for a new hero. Aside from his bodybuilding achievements (and trust me, steroids or not, what he built was an achievement), his internet presence, and the massive amount of clunge he pulled, he had a protein powder business, fan sites built about him, and a shit-ton of fun.

    When a man outperforms you, you can either respect his hustle or whinge about something arbitrary to make yourself feel better – “Sure, he earns six-figures and bangs models, but have you seen his HAIR?? What a gayboy!” Consider it a litmus test of how you view the world. Are you here to win or here to whinge?

    Don’t get me wrong here, I love Pdogs articles, and his blog. Read it for months. Some very good stuff in there. But this is WAAAY off.

    • Calpuleque

      Keep in mind Arnie took steroids when it was legal and admitted to it. Zyzz led people to believe he wasn’t on steroids.

      • http://siralansspire.wordpress.com Sir Alan

        Zyzz admitted several times that he had used steroids.

  • Unending Improvement (@UnendImprov)

    There’s a lot of suspicion that he was homosexual and used these women as a beard.

    At the very least, I’m undoubtedly convinced he was bisexual.

    • Samseau
      • Unending Improvement (@UnendImprov)

        It’s by no means a bad thing, but it puts his physical development into perspective.

        As it is though, there are probably more bisexual men than the statistics would suggest. I don’t buy that sexuality continuum BS, but I do believe society makes it harder for bisexual and gay men to admit it.

  • http://bbmisc.com TrentBologne

    Zyzz was natural brahs. I don’t understand the steroid accusations.

    Hes as natural as they come, even nature wasn’t as natural as him.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mad.brah.7 Courtney Nadeem

      Brah he posted his cycles online and admitted being on gear
      he wasn’t a closet juicer or natty

  • nuthug

    zyzz is a sick cunt and he will wreck u in the afterlife i swear on my mum

  • http://uwotm8 Jagsthetics

    No, steroids didn’t kill him brah.
    You’ll see phaggots say that he died in a sauna, that it was the steroids, it was the coke, that it was a congenital heart condition; they’re all lies. Have you seen Zyzz’s physique pics lately? He was beautiful, gorgeous, inspiring: or simply put… he was aesthetic. He was the definition of aesthetic. Lettuce be cereal, and I’m going to type this as sober as possible: if you fap (and cum) to Zyzz, it’s not gay at all, you don’t have to use the “no homo” tag because it’s a given. You would be fapping and cumming at beauty. Beauty, aesthetics, that transcends gender. Aesthetics that transcend gender and sexuality. As I’m saying this, you might want to scroll and look for a pics of Zyzz, you might probably have them in your mind right now, go ahead, you know you want to fap bro. Don’t feel guilty because of it, it doesn’t make you a homo, it makes you human, human that is appreciating in the best way one can the ultimate, godly aesthetics.

    Now, I’m not a fanboy, I’m not a nuthugger. I’m a mirer. You are a mirer too. Haters are mirers, everyone mires Zyzz. Lettuce ketchup to real tee and bee cereal: there are no real Zyzz haters. No one hates Zyzz. People hate the fanboys, the nuthuggers, phaggots that don’t even lift that reference him as their hero. They hate on people that try to profit on him. They hate the attention he gets, they’re mad jelly of him. But we all mire Zyzz, and always will.

    Now, to answer your question. He isn’t even dead brah.
    As I said, the best way to describe him is “Aesthetic”. HE DEFINES the word. A word doesn’t die.
    What happened to him then? Laws of Physics brah. Remember he mentioned he was going to “Arnold Status”? He was becoming more TOO aesthetic. He became too aesthetic. He had to change dimensions: go to heaven, mount olympus . . . however you want to call it. He is now in a place where he can continue to exceed the word “aesthetic”. Just imagine the possibilities, and by the way, that’s all you can do, IMAGINE. Because a human, mortal, mind is too minuscule to really grasp the aesthetic level of beauty he is now at in Mount Olympus. Aesthetic isn’t the word anymore: there is no way to describe his aesthetics now.

    Now that I answered your question, let me add something.
    He “died” for us brah. He showed us the way to aesthetics, he wanted all of us to be Aesthetic and lol. That extra strength you feel when you thought you couldn’t lift anymore? Zyzz is spotting you. That extra bumps you’re giving your gf while sexing her? That’s Zyzz trolling you and phucking your sloot. That urge you get to dance and bishes be mirin’? That’s Zyzz showing you the way. That sexy mofo you see in the mirror? That’s not Zyzz, that’s you bro… but Zyzz is right behind you, and he’s smiling: he’s proud of you, he’s proud of your aesthetics. Don’t worry brah, Zyzz has your back. And he wants you to become Aesthetic.

    Yes, everyone has a little bit of Zyzz in them. He didn’t mean that in the sense that you had “him”. He meant that you had the aesthetics, the lulz, the trolling, the intelligence, the charisma: Zyzz. You have it, make that Zyzz in you grow.
    And one day we will join him in Mount Olympus. But not yet, not yet.

    • Meh

      TLDR

    • Unending Improvement (@UnendImprov)

      Oh dear:

      ” if you fap (and cum) to Zyzz, it’s not gay at all, you don’t have to use the “no homo” tag because it’s a given. You would be fapping and cumming at beauty. Beauty, aesthetics, that transcends gender. Aesthetics that transcend gender and sexuality.”

      • Ross

        The man is correct. ‘Cause if a man masturbates to a woman AND a man having sex….there is a penis entering a vagina, and arousal still takes place viewing the act. There is STILL a penis involved, and the man watching is STILL able to have an erection.

    • Big Ern

      Is that you Plato?

      • Anonymous

        Flashbacks to Classics 101.

        +10

    • Red pill becoming blue pill

      u aware brah?

      Misc?

    • Miron Gainz

      fuark!

      strong aware in this post.

      “That extra strength you feel when you thought you couldn’t lift anymore? Zyzz is spotting you. That extra bumps you’re giving your gf while sexing her? That’s Zyzz trolling you and phucking your sloot. That urge you get to dance and bishes be mirin’? That’s Zyzz showing you the way. That sexy mofo you see in the mirror? That’s not Zyzz, that’s you bro… but Zyzz is right behind you, and he’s smiling: he’s proud of you, he’s proud of your aesthetics. Don’t worry brah, Zyzz has your back. And he wants you to become Aesthetic. ”

      i want to be leaf….

    • dat bro

      beautiful.

    • Timhole

      Actually I am gay, that’s why I never use no homo.

    • XenatR

      dude… this post… summed up everything….. just perfect…. zyzz is within all of us…. mirin’ 4 ever. thank you for sharing this with us

    • ugottabeshittingme

      Sorry bro, you’re a straight FAGGOT

  • dat bro

    Unfortunately, the material in this article about Zyzz is wildly inaccurate.

    Zyzz did not die of gear use, he died of a congenital heart defect that was made more relevant due to his Trenbolone use.

    Furthermore, Zyzz did reach a good natural state before his cycling. Of course it wasn’t close to as aesthetic in his later years, he did get to the point in training where every bodybuilder has to consider, (and they conclude its best to) the jump onto gear.

    And speak what you want about being a ‘rent-boy’ if it pays the bills and gets you laid, that is alpha by Roissian standards.

  • in4porn

    OP IS A FAG

  • McChang

    YOU MIRIN’ BRAH?!?!

  • Big Ern

    Maybe I’m just from a different generation but watching that youtube video had me laughing so hard at that “Jyzz” guy or whatever he calls himself. Having never been acquainted with him or any of his videos, I kept wondering if this was a parody of the *real* Zyzz. But no, evidently that sad fella is the real deal. Firstly, working out is great and all, but there is something called balance, and that body of his was just too much. It’s all an external shell covering up an empty inside. Any woman of quality will see through that a mile away. Secondly, men who are not complete idiots don’t say “Brah” every four seconds. Just my two cents, take it for what it’s worth.

    • Phinn

      >>> “men who are not complete idiots don’t say “Brah” every four seconds.”

      No kidding.

      There’s a funny graphic floating around that says something like, “I may be 40, but I feel like I’m 20, then I talk to some actual 20 year-olds, and then I think, no, never mind.”

      Suddenly, Return of Kings is starting to read like YouTube comments.

      I weep for the future.

    • Wilson

      If a “woman of quality” sees through him, that would just mean her professional discrimination as a whore rules him out for a relationship, but she’d still pretty much instantly fuck him. Her “quality” is therefore for our purposes irrelevant.

    • Hugh G. Rection

      He’s probably an idiot. But I really hate this “no woman of quality” trope. It’s like game denialist bullshit “only bar sluts and skanks will fall for that”. How would you define “quality” for a woman who is in or below Zyzz’ age group? What could a 22 year old woman possibly have going for her, and what would it matter to a young guy who just wants to get laid?

      It’s like listening to ugly bitches saying beautiful women are stupid, vain and psycho.

      • http://littlepdog.com/ P Dog

        @ Hugh G. Rection, I agree with you 100%

        @Sir Alan, he had a job as a male stripper. His popularity multiplied overnight when he died, even though he’d been posting on Youtube for a few years. I don’t think he ever would’ve gotten big (excuse the pun) had he lived.

      • Big Ern

        @Hugh G. Rection

        I meant in general, not just those girls in his milieu. That absurd level of muscularity comes off as too vain and therefore is an insecurity red flag.

        And, “quality girls” doesn’t mean quality in the sense of how men determine worth, but rather simply that they’re applying a more rigorous standard of mate assessment. This usually means they’re smarter. And this will be manifest in some way whether 18 years old or 45.

        Of course, you are correct in that if he just wants to bang dumb chicks who lack the competence to detect the insecurity, he can.

  • http://siralansspire.wordpress.com Sir Alan

    Zyzz is neither a role model or a bad influence. He is just an inspiration. Zyzz lived his life how he wanted. He knew what he wanted to accomplish and went after it. Zyzz was tired of being as skinny ass kid that got little respect from girls and guys. He went to the gym five days a week every day and did muscle tearing workouts until failure. I do not admire Zyzz for his physique, despite how aesthetic it was, I admire him for living life how the chose to see fit. I don’t think Zyzz would advocate for steroid use but he always emphasized the importance of nutrition and pushing yourself past your limits in order to make gains.

    I do not necessarily agree with his lifestyle (excessive drug use) but he did what any 20-22 year old guy should have been doing – going out and having fun. The Zyzz persona was nothing more than an act and I do think he was too narcissistic (like most of us young guys) but he did more in his life than some guy who works at a desk job stapling papers all day. He actually LIVED and did simply exist, like too many do.

    I believe that if Zyzz stuck around, his popularity would have increased quite a bit and he would have gotten even more endorsement deals than he already had. Zyzz was making some good in roads on revenue already at 22 without even having a job. His natural charisma could have branched out into many other things.

    Zyzz inspired a lot of people to be themselves and to have the most fun in life as they can. I don’t think someone who was a bad influence could do that.

    ‘

    • Big Ern

      “Zyzz lived his life how he wanted. He knew what he wanted to accomplish and went after it. Zyzz was tired of being as skinny ass kid that got little respect from girls and guys.”

      There is a contradiction there. Sounds to me like he ended up living his life not according to his wants, but rather those of others.

      • http://siralansspire.wordpress.com Sir Alan

        He mainly worked out so he’d feel better about himself in relation to other people, but his lifestyle was more IDGAF. If he really lived his life according to how people wanted, he wouldn’t have been the massive troll and party-guy that he was known as. He’d be a desk clerk beta shrub if he followed the rules and played along.

      • Timhole

        What if you want people to like/admire you? Does this concept break the internet?

  • http://krauserpua.com krauserpua

    He’s the pinup for “little boy in a gorilla suit”. What he did was one massive case of avoiding-his-real-problems. He wanted to look the part instead of becoming the part.

    • Big Ern

      And that’s the sad part of his premature demise. He never got the chance to deconstruct his motivations; in other words, grow up. I guess the best you can say is he probably had a blast towards the end there.

  • beta_plus

    Weight lifting, when done right, is fantastic. But doing roids instead of dieting correctly to look cut just strikes me as defeating the purpose.

    I’ve been lifting for a year and intermittent fasting for 3 months. It will take me longer to get where I want to be, but I suspect the end result will be much more satisfying.

  • Brah

    u mirin, brah?

    u mirin, jaw brah?

    u jelly?

    Jokes aside, Zyzz did whatever the fuck he wanted, and for that he was a true Alpha male.

    • Big Nick Digger

      No, Zyzz SCREAMS beta. Total beta male hiding behind those muscles. Future divorcee getting is ass raped in family court and crying when he’s alone.

      An alpha male would be the guy from the photo on the left living unapologetically and getting ass because of it. You just have to imagine him in a different shirt is all.

      • He Man

        Nah, Zyzz was as alpha as they come. Sorry, brah.

    • Timhole

      Alpha male is a bullshit concept.

  • Brah

    Oh, yeah, and one more thing:

    fuck the haters.

  • forever mirin

    ZYZZ set a goal and achieved it not giving a fack what others have to say. He did what was needed to achieve god like aesthetics. He took the risk just like the rest of the bicycle riders and its very unfortunate people are looking down on him without knowing him or his story. There is a reason this man has influenced so if you do a little research to find out. He didn’t wanna grow old working a boring 9-5 job like the rest of u haters. You want something in life ??? GO GET IT

    ..forever mirin brah ..your legend will never die and be forgotten

  • Dr. Giggles

    ZYZZ’s life proves that many men who get to the very top, pay for it with a short life and a brutish end. Think Caesar, NFL players, and Lance Armstrong.

    Armstrong nearly lost his life early, like ZYZZ, because performance enhancing drugs were said to be the cause of his cancer, which Armstrong admitted himself. Now his career is dead because of dark triad that got him there.

    For every Jay-Z who got into the game, clawed his way to the top, and stayed there, are others who followed the same blueprint but got killed or brought down by some tragic flaw.

  • Jason

    I don’t see what the hype is about Zyzz.

    I understand that the vast majority of his popularity these days has been derived from the fact that he died young. As far as aesthetics go, he wasn’t necessarily the most special bodybuilder out there. There are a lot of guys who look like Zyzz, and I maintain that his physique is actually acquirable by a large amount of men who are willing to put in the time and take the substances to do it.

    The reason why Zyzz was so popular while he was alive was due to the fact that he was a prolific internet troll. His entire identity was built off of his physique, much like how a woman’s worth is basically built off the value of her sex. He offered little else other than that and, if you review his past, you realize he was quite narcissistic and insecure.

    My overall dislike for Zyzz does not stem from the fact that he took steroids. I don’t care. In fact, testosterone injections are technically more safe than birth control pills are for women and the only reason its recreational administration is banned is because of its potency as a constructive force for men both physically and psychologically.

    Anyway, I felt the need to type this up because people don’t really remember who exactly Zyzz was.

    • Stuki Moi

      A popular path to popculture icon status is to “Live fast, dies young, leave a good looking corpse”

      In our feminized, you are what you look like, culture, this guy succeeded at the latter beyond pretty much anyone else.

      • Timhole

        Feminised?

  • Trojan

    Zyzz was a modern-day Samson. He was done in by a fatal flaw: his overuse of steroids. Still, he created a cult-like following and had tons of girls trying to get with him. Long live Zyzz.

  • HighFive

    Test levels have been dropping 1.2% since 1980. Why buy into the govt’s frame that steroid use is cheating and dangerous? This is the same govt that claims its too difficult to filter the estrogen out of the water that is lowering males test levels each year, and yet made sure to ban steroids and make people have to jump through hoops to get test even if they are 70 years old and their test level is 200 ng/dl. Same govt that makes sure to always mention how dangerous steroids are in the media but strangely enough never brings up the estrogen in the water and how men’s test is decreasing each year.

    Fact is, us men aren’t competing on a equal playing field here. It’d be one thing if men’s test levels were what they are suppose to be. But they aren’t, so I cant look down on anyone who uses steroids when moderate steroid use appears to be quite safe. I mean in 30 years when test has decreased another 30% are we still going to be advising men to do it naturally?

  • Onder

    I find the whole thing sad really. I remember bumping into a video of his a few years ago and thought it was a joke and a bunch of guys showing off topless and looking for attention.

    Having now read Roosh’s post. My impression hasn’t changed.

    Zyzz became famous because he was able to satisfy every insecure guy’s false expectation that getting jacked would make you score women.

    That’s why I often feel sorry for most if the guys pumping weights when I pass my local gym because they’re all doing it for the wrong reasons.

    They’ve built themselves up simply to help cover their insecurities.

    I honestly find it surprising that the game community discusses this as if its the ‘magic pill’ to getting laid.

    I would argue that being game aware. We already have it…

    I know a guy who has the body of a tree trunk yet he’s tapping more girls than I am. And he’s fucked models, actresses and strippers.

    It’s all common sense really. If you want to fuck more girls. Simply talk to more girls. Why go to the gym when you can simply walk up to a girl and talk to her? You get more of what you focus on.

    One last point…

    You have to seriously be smart and ask yourselves the question:

    Would a smart, beautiful and high self-esteemed woman be seen with guys like that?

    If you can’t look at yourself in the mirror and honestly believe that you’re entitled to a high quality girl. Then it’s not your body that needs sorting, but something far deeper.

    Just my too cents.

  • Anthony Deluca

    This article is too hard on steroids. If done properly and in reasonable doses steroids are not that unhealthy. In fact most people would be healthier with some amount of extra T. Of course Zyzz was probably doing far more than is healthy.

  • echoes

    The “he cheated” thing doesn’t apply IMHO. He wasn’t competing with anyone. It’s like saying a woman with fake breasts is ‘cheating’ women with natural breasts that aren’t as big. End of the day if he decided to take a substance to make his journey to getting the body he wanted easier, then so be it. He wasn’t cheating anyone other than people who wished they had his body. And that’s just projecting envy onto him. Is it cheating to take powered protein? Special post work out shakes? Ice baths? Altitude training?

    Now if his death was the result of him becoming hooked on drugs or stuck in a spiral of usage to get bigger well past a point he should have stopped at.. then yes, that’s a tragic shame, as tragic as any substance abuse that leads to an early and unexpected death. Everyone can become addicted to things that make them feel good. No one is perfect. We can all become addicted to things that can harm our life span.

    I think what sticks with me is for the body he had.. and the speculated substances he took.. he looks like a bloody nice guy to be around. I mean the dancing on webcam.. the constant smiling.. the way he was around women.. him hugging his dog.. the photos with strangers.. he looks like a nice guy. There was no aggression. No hint that he was full of rage or anger that a lot of substance abusers get like. No hint that he felt because he became well built he could go around starting fights every Friday night. The guy looked like he wouldn’t say boo to a ghost. Even Charlie Sheen said just last week, when he took steroids, he wanted to go to bars and hit people. It screwed his head up. Where in any of the Zyzz videos is any suggestion he was like that? I see none. Just a nice guy who had a lot of fun in the final years of his life. I’m sure we all hope for the same.

    We’re all on a journey and we’ll all make decisions on that journey. He made his. His choice.

  • Lol

    He was a troll. The most pristine one at that.

  • steve

    Whats the difference between someone using steroids and someone eating junk food and sitting on the couch everyday, both are destroying their bodies, but you have a bunch of haters crucifying Zyzz. Look at all the fat unhealthy slobs in our society who will die at 40 from heart disease, they certainly out number the Zyzz physiques.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mad.brah.7 Courtney Nadeem

      notsureifsrs

      • ronald

        can you even post without posting some bullshit meme talk?

  • SickCunt

    He was a troll and for that i respect him.And so what if he was a poser? He banged more cunts than anyone of you haters could imagine , so hate more :)

  • Indian Woman Bharatiyaa Naari

    Aziz Shavershian? Another Iranian dude like Roosh? He’s got a cute face but I like Roosh’s hairy chest.

    • J

      Zyzz was Russian/Australian….. not Iranian.

      • jay

        and ur a dumbass

  • Timhole

    This article like many others is ignorant to steriods. The reason people misuse them is because of the fact that information is concealed from them rather than letting people make informed decisions about wha they want to do with their body. There is no cheating unless someone uses these things in a competition where they are not allowed.

    I believe roids should be regulated and legalised everywhere and correct information should be available to any who want to take that route with their bodybuilding journey. I would rather see guys getting shredded and enjoying their life than getting fucked up on booze, driving cars when drunk and beating their wives.

    We don’t know the curcumstances of Zyzz’s death and it’s none of our business. Plenty of people have unknown heart problems so for all we know, it was bound to happen given his increased stress. A family member age 30 only died recently and unexpectedly like this from heart failure. Even if it did kill him, it’s more reason to want to regulate steroids so people can do it safely and without fear. Fear only breeds ignorance.

    Rest in peace Zyzz.

  • MIKE

    Haters gonna hate, faggots gonna fag.

    You’re all mirin’, don’t lie

    He died of a heart condition + everything else, not just roids.

    He came from nothing, and built his own way up to mount olympus.
    Maybe he used roids secretly, but he never admitted or encouraged anybody else to do them. When he played Zyzz, he always pushed people to build themselves through hard work and heart, he never encouraged anybody to use roids. Zyzz isn’t real, he’s a characterization of a way of life, a true role model for anybody who wants a healthy and extremely rewarding lifestyle, a true inspiration.

    I wont judge Aziz for any mistakes he made in his personal life, we all make them. We should learn from his mistakes instead of judging him.

    RIP Son of Zeus, brother of Hercules, and father of aesthetics.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mad.brah.7 Courtney Nadeem

      uwotm8, he wasn’t saying he’s natty, he even posted the cycles he ran.

      nothing wrong with being on gear

  • Russ

    I love this site, but please either get people who know what they’re talking about to write about fitness or stop doing it altogether. Every single fitness article on this website contains so many erroneous claims that it’s mind-boggling. And then you start talking about gear, XD. Why would you talk about steroids when you don’t even understand basic fitness concepts.

    RIP The King, forever mirin.

  • FRED

    Zyzz is the Father of Aesthetics. If you cant even spell his name right…. Dont criticize his Life. RIP Zyzz, Forever Remembered.

  • Stan

    Steroids only allow you to surpass your natural physical limitations. Weather you take them or not, you still have to put in the hard work. There is no ‘magical muscle pills’ you can take and all of a sudden you are a ripped up, jacked muscle-head.

    Zyzz was an inspiration to this generation, and will be remembered for a long time to come. Rest in piece bruh, we forever mirin.

  • http://www.facebook.com/keskarvikramaditya Vikram Aditya Keskar

    Well, there in no sports-person on this planet in any famous game, who would have not taken steroids for becoming better than what they naturally are. Bodybuilders and wrestlers do take steroids and many of these if taken properly and in limited dosage are not hazardous. Zyzz died due to a congenital heart condition, so its unfair to say that just steroids or weight training did it. If you have a bad gene HCM/ HOCM, you could die at any age (mostly young) at anytime sitting in a quilt!

    Zyzz is a role model not a bad influence and though he is a legend now, had he have lived till today, he might have been more famous than Justin Bieber. He was a man, who built himself from a nobody kid to a celebrity with just a tool of internet videos. Something, that all cannot do! RIP Zyzz!

  • Bren

    People are way to judgemental, so what he used steroids, (I’m neither for nor against them) its not as if the steroids make you big overnight he worked way harder than anyone not taking them! and why is it that it’s all about wealth/money? He lived his life and enjoyed it!
    It’s got nothing to do with anyone as a person it’s their choice to take steroids and no one elses, don’t blame him for ‘influencing’ them, he influences me to train but I don’t take steroids
    R.I.P Zyzz Forever Mirin

  • zyzzaholic

    you are a bit of a faggot , arent you ?? look like you are a big fan of Own3r, Dimtri Duke-Nukem guy !!! stop writing bs and go lift weights, off you go !

  • k

    yh i heard he was a douche but i still admire him as he was very entrepreneurial and had good physique i have some motivational quotes from him

  • Matt

    Haters don’t really hate you, they hate themselve cause you are a reflection of they wich to be.

  • JIMMY.325

    Matt is 100% correct I
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  • Adam

    This sounds like a hater article. fuck you

  • Roger

    It still surprises me how ignorant the general public is on steroid use. Steroids do not make you big and/or shredded. You still have to work your @$$ off to get a body like Zyzz, with or without gear.
    Long live Zyzz, Son of Zeus, Father of Aesthetics! May his memory live on our hearts, souls and muscles.

  • coolFOOL

    I LOVE STEROIDS SRS. I’M ON A CYCLE NOW NO CARE!

  • Me

    It’s not about the steroids. He was a bad influence because he made the impression that beauty is only skin deep. Even though his videos encouraged people to become more physically fit he turned an entire generation into bassically douche baggs and tools. Zyzz didn’t make youtube videos to encourage or enspire, he made youtube videos to get more of what he loved “attention”. He (in my oppinion) gives bodybuilding a bad name the way criminal thugs give black males with hip hop “swag” a bad name. By making them look ignorant. People (especially young) looked at Zyzz at saw that he was attractive, got alot of girls and had money but they also see that man acting like an immature jock from high school and treating lesser looking people as if they were not on his level so ofcorse people are going to associate that mentallity with his life style the exact same way young people see celebrities like Lil Wayne and 2 Pac with women and money but they are spreading ignorance and violence so people saught out to obtain that exact same image and life style. You don’t have to be a stuck up douche bagg to get hot girls and be sexy. What this world needs are role models who are attractive, wealthy, loved and spread a message of loving one another, education themselves and bettering the world rather than being a self obsorbed egotistic ass clown.

  • YahBrah

    yah, miring his dead arse rotting away

  • pol

    he admitted steroid use bra

  • Joseph Vasylev

    whoever published this article is a fucking ignorant dipshit, he didn’t die from steriod use he died from an undiagnosed heart condition. and taking steriods is an “easy way” or a “shortcut” it takes even more work that way, and commenting “rent boy” on his job is uncalled for, he worked as a stripper so he could support his healthy lifestyle and persue his dreams of becoming a bodybuilder, that was his job it wasn’t who he was.

  • Dan

    This article is offensive on several levels but I can’t help but agree with the spirit of it in part.

    Zyzz introduced a hyper-masculine cartoon of himself in a playful way which, I’m afraid, a lot of people who look up to him now are blind to. He created his own identity without regard to what the “norm” was. What concerns me is that now, rather than people seeing this as an open door to reinvent themselves as they see fit, too many people are following the Zyzz playbook to the T. He used the term “aesthetic” correctly – meaning to have a unique and considered personal connection to the world which one adheres to. Now it’s confused with the opposite: blindly following the trends set forward by someone who followed nobody.

    But what bothers me about this article is the assumptions it makes about masculinity. To say that something is or is not more or less masculine is a self-imposed sexism which needs to be weeded out of our culture – specifically our gym culture. So he stripped. Does that make him a woman? Maybe he liked it. Hell, even if he took a dick in his mouth that doesn’t make him any more or less masculine. Where do you draw the line? Manscaping? Makeup? Excessive attention to hair style? He was guilty of all of these but using his body that you praise so highly as being masculine is somehow an issue? I see it as being smart so long as he did it willingly and didn’t think any less of himself for it.

    Same with steroids. This culture needs to get the stick out of its ass about steroid use. It’s a part of our (bodybuilding) community. Some people choose to use it, some don’t. It’s no more “cheating” than, say, hiring a trainer instead of studying for years about what works best for you. Everyone has their own way to get to where they want to be and as long as we – as bodybuilders – continue to demonize or otherwise look down upon those who don’t go about it the exact same way we do we are doomed to remain a sad subculture on par with the bitchiest den of drag queens imaginable.

    What makes this community so great is that it is so adaptable to each person’s approach, goals, and needs. I dislike Zyzz as a cultural icon but only because people seem to be missing the point to the detriment of bodybuilding at large as well as to the memory the pretend to think they are celebrating. If you want to see him as either a villain or a savior I should remind you that what always made him worth listening to was that he wasn’t afraid to be both at the same time.

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