All Girls Like Muscular Guys

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I’ve never been much of meathead gym-rat. I played sports in high school, including track and field, but was fed the line that weight lifting would “bulk me up” and “slow me down.” I never really had much more than a slender, athletic build—muscular, but thin—a development that I attribute to several subsequent years of running distance to stay in shape. There was a time where I’d go on 10- or 12-mile runs like nothing, getting even thinner in the process.

My fitness decisions were based on a series of embarrassingly inaccurate myths, including the notion that endurance training was best for my “overall health” and— more importantly— that most girls “didn’t really like muscular guys” anyway. In more recent years, I’d gradually degenerated into a skinny-fat build borne from a combination of boredom and laziness—not horribly out-of-shape, but with a weak-looking question-mark posture, a slightly protruding man-pooch, and nascent man boobs.

The whole thing came to a head, hilariously, when I was examining a sex video I’d made with an ex-girlfriend, and I saw what my body looked like from a distance. Here I was, filming this for posterity, and I couldn’t bear to look at myself. Something needed to change. I went back to what I knew. I started jogging, doing light resistance training with an emphasis on reps over weight, and quickly noticed a difference. Within, I’d say, two months, I looked noticeably thinner again. I was back at zero.

This time around, though, I had a theory I wanted to test out. For years, people—including chicks—had been beating that same drum that only a small subset of girls liked muscular dudes. Years earlier, I’d abandoned taking advice from most people about girls—especially from girls—realizing it was irretrievably stupid. So why would this be accurate? I basically hadn’t gone back and revised that part of my knowledge base to new realities.

So I decided to run an experiment on myself. “Let’s see what happens if I get a little ripped.” I picked up a series of weightlifting books, revised my workout routine with a focus on strength training, bought some weightlifting gloves, and started hitting the gym on the regular. One of the bread-and-butter components of my Workout Routine 1.0 had been a home workout. I’d do a series of body-weight exercises, with an emphasis on flexibility and endurance. I updated that process to focus on muscle-gain. I made a concerted effort to eat at home more often, eating protein and vegetables at better intervals. I started taking vitamins, including zinc and magnesium. I played hype songs on loop while doing push-ups and dips like a prison inmate.

It wasn’t long before I was in a zone. I was lifting at the gym three or four days a week, and supplementing that with a day or two of home workout. The differences in my physique and behavior were noticeable. Previously fitted shirts became snug around my arms and chest. My posture improved, making me look longer and sturdier. I threw out the trash shirtless.

Girls’ reactions were a lot more interesting. I’d catch them staring—sometimes several times during a conversation—at my arms and chest. Girls’ hands would linger on certain parts of my body when they would do one of those you’re-so-funny pawings. The nerdiest, most bookish girls, the kind who like sci-fi and talk with a slight lisp—who most people never-in-a-million-years would imagine cared about such things—would oooh and ahhh when I’d tell them to feel my biceps and half-jokingly explain that I was “in the middle of getting ripped.” I had unwittingly leveled-up.

Here’s the thing: if you were to see me in the street right now, you’d never call me buff. By any serious measure, I’m just getting started. As 2013 gets underway, my “resolution” is to cement these gains and push them to the next level. Interestingly, at the same time that my humble progress has gotten me better attention from better girls, it has become less and less about them. Working out has become my thing.

But, if you pick up anything from my little experiment, it’s this: every girl—regardless of what she, or anyone else, says—likes muscles on a guy. Don’t believe otherwise.

Read More: The Power of Shame



About the Author

is a writer and consultant, with specialties in dating culture, social intelligence, and the state of masculinity. He splits his time between various U.S. cities. His column runs every Wednesday.

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  • Alex

    You should post some photos of the ideal physique. Most girls prefer a michael phelps type look compared to the roided up option.

    • Wilson

      Phelps, who works out 40 hours per week: women have such modest expectations.

    • A Axe

      Because either you are ottermode swimmer or a roided up ripped freak.

      Oh yeah, no way there is anything in-between.

    • Mike

      Phelps is on roids.

      Having been around enough juiced up bouncers, to say that women don’t like the roided up option is dead wrong. I’m not saying they looked like Jay Cutler, but, they were fucking huge in comparison to your average guy.

  • U Mirin Gains Brah?

    Women will adamantly say they don’t like ewwww muscley guys r grosss. But like everything a woman says, you should largely ignore it and instead pay attention to what they DO rather than what they say.

    The words of a woman are worth less than the airwaves they travel on. But a woman’s actions are worth more than their weight in gold.

    • http://recklessyetrefined.wordpress.com Trev

      Women claim they don’t want guys with “big visible muscles” but then you show them a picture of Greg Plitt or Rich Froning, and they have to go change their panties instantly.

      Revert to point #1: They don’t know what they want, so get under that damn barbell.

    • Tuthmosis

      Exactly. A woman’s words are not credible on these matters. There is massive cognitive dissonance between the logic that women vocalize and what their programming impels them to actually DO.

  • Anonymous

    According to my completely unscientific survey of females who know who he is, Georges St. Pierre is what you’re aiming for.

  • http://www.sosuave.net Vice

    Solid post. I need to get back on the program I was doing when I was still Active Duty in the military. I have to get off the bitch train and take the time to establish a solid regiment.

  • http://www.nexxtlevelup.com Virgle Kent

    Hmmmmm, so much of this sounds familiar. Great song for the intro, can’t get it out of my head.

    • Tuthmosis

      This song had a huge hype-related impact on me too, which is why I opened the post with it. When I first discovered it, I listened to it on loop for like three days straight.

  • http://realmikaelryan@blogspot.com Mikael

    I literally just wrote a blog about the same exact thing last night.

    realmikaelryan@blogspot.com

    you will note that my version is dated Jan 1. 13.

  • http://realmikaelryan.blogspot.com Mikael

    I literally just wrote a blog about the same exact thing last night.

    realmikaelryan.blogspot.com

    you will note that my version is dated Jan 1. 13.

  • candid

    I’ve been described as a handsome, muscular 200 lb. guy at a height of 5’11″ for most of my adult life. Things certainly changed for the better when I began to lift weights religiously when it came to the opposite sex. While I can’t deny that women appreciate muscles, I have been overlooked for taller, thinner guys all of my life. There are groupies for all different types of guys, but It all comes down to height and status for most women. Height and status are the only things women can accept from a man without having to admit what they really crave: security.

    • http://realmikaelryan.blogspot.com Mikael

      your problem might be your height weight combo. 5’10″ above a weight of 180 starts to become bodybuilder esque. if you’re not that ripped to be bodybuilderesque then your problem is you’re not shredded enough. Abs win all.

      • Anonymous

        Abs win all… once your shirt is off.

        But unless you’re at the beach/pool, bedroom, or in some other place with an excuse to be shirtless, your abs, specifically, won’t win the day.

        Visible abs are, of course, just a reflection of low body fat percentage and a strong gym work ethic. In sum: lower your body fat through better gym and kitchen work, and the rest will follow.

    • Stuki

      It’s easy to look try hard if you’re short and muscular. Particularly next to taller guys. One thing that seems to work for short, muscular guys, is to adjust their looks and demeanor to become more threatening, perhaps thuggish. This will cause tall handsome hipsters to defer more to you in social situations.

    • Unending Improvement (@UnendImprov)

      5’11″ makes you already taller than most men.

      Your height is not at issue.

  • dragnet

    “As a good-looking, buff dude (sprints & Crossfit FTW!) I have some personal experience with this phenomenon. My experience is that bulking up is good for a man’s notch counts under two conditions, 1) he bulks up for himself and not the ladies, and 2) he adjusts his Game to be synergistic with his newfound physical reality.

    The first one has to do with inner game. If your primary reason for working out is to look hot, then you are a woman. A bitch. Because that’s what bitches do. Women live and die by their looks and so only a woman (or highly feminized male) does that. If you workout to impress women, then your inner game is weak and you are already fucked in the field—this mindset is rampant and explains a fair amount of the failure you see out there. Workout because men have always exerted their strength of will over objects through space. Workout to improve your health. Workout because you insist on becoming a fierce and physically vital human being in an age of trans-fats, fattitude, and dull, sedentary cubicle jobs. Whatever your reasons, don’t make it about bitches.

    And the second issue is just a failure to adjust to a new state of affairs. When you bulk up and become physically imposing, you have got to make changes in the way you spit Game. My Game consists mostly of inner game/frame control and physical escalation. And a fair amount of comfort building when needed. I mostly just try to play defense and not make mistakes. Being good-looking and physically imposing means girls are less inclined to shit test or challange me—I go months without needing to neg serious prospects and I get away with ignoring most shit tests that do actually come my way. You’re basically shooting for what Roosh once called “horny, nice guy” game. When you’re buff, women are already primed to believe that you’re alpha and a player…so zig where they zag. Contrast is king.

    No amount of bench presses can overcome weak inner game or a failure to react and adjust to your situation. Trust me it’s not the muscles that are tripping guys up.”

    http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-14261-post-235173.html#pid235173

  • saphire

    Please note, for growing muscle you wouldn’t necessarily do the same routine you would do for increasing strength. Ideally you can do both, but the regime is actually not the same. If you want to grow muscle the most efficient way is high volume, good form, long negatives. Going low rep high weight won’t make you more attractive to girls usually even when it increases muscle size (you will look like powerlifter). People should read up on this. Don’t do Rippetoe Starting Strength if aesthetics is what you’re after.

    • http://recklessyetrefined.wordpress.com Trev

      Bullshit. Starting Strength is the FIRST thing I recommend to just about everyone, as it teaches proper training movements and mechanics. If you choose to eat like crap while doing it, that’s your problem, not the program’s. 80 percent of your physical aesthetics is determined by your diet. There are plenty of guys that used Starting Strength and later the Texas Method and have lean and impressive physiques (Take a look at Justin Laczek over at 70sbig.com).

      Powerlifters look the way they do because they don’t give a shit about the way they look, and thus consume junk food as an easy source of excess calories in order to fuel their ridiculously heavy training session. There are plenty of athletes who do the exact same workouts while eating clean (closer to a Paleo diet) and end up looking like Greek gods.

  • saphire

    PS Crossfit won’t get you ripped.

    • dragnet

      Yes it will.

      • Anonymous

        You’re misleading people. If you’re muscular you didn’t become that way with crossfit. No one ever does…the thing is a scam.

        Circuit training and HIIT are good for becoming lean and for body composition, but the crossfit fad is gay. And none of the guys in it who have good physiques became that way with crossfit.

      • Stuki

        It will get you ripped if you do it right. Which pretty much no one outside crossfire coaches other hyper type a’s will ever do.

        It won’t get you huge, but plenty ripped enough.

      • http://recklessyetrefined.wordpress.com Trev

        Depends on your programming. If you’re at a shit box and all they program are 40-min HIT met-cons (10,000 burpees for time!), then, yes, you’re going to end up a skinny girl. But if you are following programming closer to CrossFit Football or the Outlaw Way, you’re going to get strong and jacked as all hell.

    • bcf

      irongarmx.net has an unofficial saying: “Crossfit: turns men into women and women into men.”

    • markus

      If your gym is doing it right, CrossFit certainly will make you ripped. My box had beasts! Even I was deadlifting over 435lbs and looked great. Then the coaches changed and their focus over-emphasized met-con. Heavy lifts went out the window once the classes got big (rack space), so I left.

      Follow the dot com workouts and you’ll see great results. If your body isn’t responding, maybe add in or substitute low rep, high weight, phosphogen days – like those in Starting Strength. I’m an average 6′ guy and SS got me repping out 405lbs back squats (hips below the knee) in a just a couple of months. Its a great way to ramp up and get ready for more nuanced programming. I wouldn’t recommend doing CF and SS programs at the same time, but you can augment CF with SS if your gym is dropping the ball.

      Warning: Strictly following SS will NOT get you ripped. You have to give up cardio, but it will make you very very strong and thats a great jump off point.

  • playmuc

    Well said. This is my plan for 2013, as well. 2012 was just the beginning..

  • David

    I think a lot of women who say “Most girls don’t like muscular guys.” are really saying, “I am not hot enough to attract the most scrumptious of men so I will preemptively disqualify them in advance.”

    • Pedro

      Bingo! Cosmo writers, fat women and old women’s opinions don’t count!

    • Alexander

      You nailed it.

    • A.

      Some women are intimidated by muscular guys, some men get intimidated by gorgeous women, because they are not confident in who they are and in what they have. (especially women have all sort of inferiority complex) A man once told me: it doesn’t matter how do you see yourself, it matters how he sees you. He was right.

  • Alex

    Ok Phelps is a bad example. Something like Brad Pitt in fight club.

  • randomweights

    <———– See the guy in this avatar here? That's me. Followed the above line of thinking for years because I thought the muscular guys get the girls. Worked on self improvement in all areas. Two college degrees. Masters on top of that. Top of the game in my job. But guess what? Being a muscular, intelligent, some would say good looking introvert who finds it difficult to socially interact also makes you the LEAST laid guy ever. No girl has ever been attracted to me because of my physique even though I've won a state bodybuilding title only a year ago. It might help some guys with other facets of their game already in place, but not always.

    • Therapsid

      Yep. Yes being muscular can definitely help. But we shouldn’t exaggerate its importance.

      Status, physical attractiveness, and game are more important.

      For example: an average looking muscular guy will not pull as much as an above average looking guy who doesn’t lift, assuming similar personalities and backgrounds.

      As Roosh has observed, girls are really shitty at discerning how well built a man is, except at the extremes. The thing is, we can’t change our genetic endowment as far as facial features and height are concerned. So, while it’s not as important as looks, working out on balance will help your game.

      But if you’re working out to the exclusion of developing a full social life and hobbies, then forget it. You’re better off laying off the weights. There are many men out there who work out like mad and have no other hobby except drinking.

    • David

      Your problem is right here->”difficult to socially interact”.

      Absolute number one thing women like is confidence, social dominance and charisma. If you don’t have that, then yes your muscular body works against you. Women actually find it repellent for a handsome man and/or a muscular man to act meek and timid. They hate that.

      As an introvert you can’t and shouldn’t try to be an extrovert, but you need to learn confidence.

      • Therapsid

        So, wait. They wouldn’t find an average built guy acting meek repellent?

        If being muscular puts even greater demands for game, then how is it a big advantage?

        See all these comments are just reaffirming that being muscular is, all else being equal, a plus. But a modest one compared to game, status, physical attractiveness, and wealth.

      • http://alphaisassumed.wordpress.com Martel

        I think that women are more repulsed by betas who seem like they should be alphas than by betas who seem like they should be betas.

        I’m a good-looking guy and would often get “the look” from across the room. When I approached and seemed awkward, it felt like I inspired downright revulsion.

        If you’re an ostensible alpha but act like a beta, they probably assume that something must be seriously wrong with you. If you’re an ostensible beta who turns out to be an alpha, it’s a pleasant surprise. However, you’ve got more initial obstacles to overcome. That’s why looking like an alpha and being able to back it up with your personality is your best bet.

      • David

        IMO and to further elaborate on Martel’s response-

        Average built guy acting meek and timid -> bad
        Muscular built guy acting meek and timid -> even worse

        Consider muscles a force multiplier for your confidence and game…but also for your anti-game. Decent game combined with muscles lets you pull a woman better than what you could get with decent game and an average body. But muscles don’t make up for bad game, they just make your bad game worse.

      • John

        “Women actually find it repellent for a handsome man and/or a muscular man to act meek and timid. They hate that.”

        That’s not my experience at all. I’m a fairly handsome guy (got the “You’re Hot” message on OKCupid, which is apparently real) and I have a square jaw and used to wear a leather jacket. In college I was socially awkward and withdrawn. There were a lot of girls that were in to me.

        Honestly, if I look objectively at my own personal experiences, a lot of them don’t fit the whole alpha/beta game narrative. I think the only reason it gets repeated everywhere is because it’s easy to ignore evidence that doesn’t fit. For example:

        * Girls who are bisexual. Supposedly like 30% of the female population can potentially be this way. Think they value masculinity above all else? I doubt it.

        * The most popular porn star among women is James Deen, who famously lacks the typical ultra-masculine porn star personality that men think women want.

        * The whole sensitive emo guy thing that was popular a few years ago.

    • anon1

      I think that your mindset and perhaps your lack of experience with game, is fucking up your obvious major advantages of aesthetic appeal and muscles.

      So it’s not that they aren’t bonuses, but that perhaps you’re in a funk socially that takes away your major competitive advantage (compared to the average bloke)

  • Onder

    This is very true.
    Size and the display of strength is an aphrodisiac to girls because it triggers an attraction response in them that the men are able to protect and take care of them.

    My cousin who’s no muscle man by any stretch of the imagination is naturally a big framed guy. And girls seem to love him because of it. All he has to do is hit the gym a few days a week for a month, and he’s money.

    For me, being naturally athletic looking. I’ve never had as much luck. So one of my goals are also to hit the gym and get bigger and more muscly. Its simply what women respond to in the western world.

    The stronger and bigger you are, the higher quality girl you’re going to get.

    Girls in that category will only ever want the strongest mate because they want the guy to fend off all the other men around her.

    In fact, i would add to that, the ability to fight and protect yourself. If you have muscle but look like a pushover. It’s as good as not going to the gym in the first place.

  • anon1

    male physique types: http://www.themusclecouple.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Male-Physiques1.jpg

    female physique types: http://upit.cc/i/2f14d0dd.jpg

    i’m currently between builtfat and chubbyfat (got a great profile, but my gut needs to fucking go)

    i’d love to look ripped/athletic but my size is larger, so best i could get is probably built.

    Briefly considered endurance running to lose weight, but heard one too many horror stories about how much muscle is lost, by switching to just endurance all the time.

    Tuth is right though, people only get weirded out by strongfat and bodybuilder types. and even then there are still girls that go for that look.

    On the girls body archetype you can see that pretty much everything but chubby, fat, and supersized are desireable (average is arguable, personally i wouldnt go for that look, similarly some girls can pull of stick figures, others… notsomuch)

  • http://ihatethereforeiam.com decomposer917

    Being more cut and more muscular will make you more attractive, all things equal.
    The problem is that a lot of girls and a lot of great girls roll their eyes when they see a guy who is too ripped or someone who is obsessed with his appearance, because they assume that there is nothing else to him but his muscles and he is probably self absorbed.
    If you can defy that stereotype by being smart, interesting and funny guy and not making it look like your life revolves around fitness, than your more fit body will compliment you and will make you more attractive and desirable.

    • Nik

      The other possibility to consider when you hear a female say “I don’t want to be with a guy who is too built up and cut. yuck!” in truth, what she may really be saying is “I don’t want to be with a guy who is spending his time taking care of himself when he should be spending that time catering to my princess demands.”

      I assume this article is for men who still want to impress USA shit women? Roosh did a blog entry a while back and according to him he observed in east europe having a muscular physique was not a big priority.

  • Therapsid

    The problem becomes when guys who’ve spent years in the gym sculpting their physique, watching their diet, and taking supplements become emotionally invested that they now *deserve* to get ass simply on account of it. Or tied to the belief that what notches they’ve gotten are a result of their muscular build.

    The truth is, getting ripped is a long-term project if you’re starting from scratch. I chose the working out path as a teenager and am committed to it, but honestly, if I did it all again I’d focus more on just being in good athletic shape instead.

    I wonder if being jacked is more helpful for some groups than others. For example, if you’re an Asian dude, might being big be useful in countering stereotypes?

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  • naddy

    You know what, im a girl and i dont really appreciate big, huge and humogous muscles.

    I think they look scary because you’ll have a very distorted figure as if there are some overgrowth lumps under your skin.

    And my perception of overly muscular dudes are that they are like peacocks! They are full of ego and pride and not to mention that they are great big show offs too!

    A toned man is nice to look at, yes. But an overly buffed one makes our eyes sore!

    • Roosh

      Shutup feminist

      • anon1

        the only appropriate response is to kill the hamster.

      • fat angry feminist

        careful …around this town muscular = gay all too often

    • Mark

      A girl once said to me, “Eww I hate visible abs. They gross me out – its like an insect or something, those things under the skin.”

      She was a pig.

      Coincidence?

      This post and the comment thread is fucking inspiring. It inspired me to go lift even though I had decided to make today a rest day.

    • David

      Naddy,

      I don’t believe you.

      And everyone here knows women love guys full of ego and pride and who like to show off…as long as they are competent in what they are showing off.

      You may honestly believe what you are saying, but you are lying to yourself.

    • Tuthmosis

      You’re so full of it that it’s amusing. I’d love to see your mental fap folder.

    • Whalephaert

      a cat fancier.. definitely.

    • A.

      I’m also a woman and I think we are impressed by muscular guys but we don’t (always) prefer them because they intimidate us so it’s more ” safe” to put off. Because of our lack of confidence we seem them unapproachable. You can walk beside an ” Olympian god ” on street only if you tolerate higher levels of eye pressure and the unspoken words” what the hell is he dating her?”

    • Mina

      You have very obviously not had a lovely, muscular man. Try a power-lifter, they are the best. Body-builders are a close second.

  • meat head

    size matters.
    that there is even a discussion of whether or not a lean muscular physique is beneficial or not in seduction, shows how effective the man hating media is in distorting our views.

    muscles show off your superior DNA or your hard work ethic, or both, and that is attractive to all humans.

    • Stuki

      Generally, these days, muscles beyond the corporate fitness center standard, particularly if obviously displayed, primarily show off lack of better things to do than lift weights.

      Brad Pitt shows “superior genetics”. Jay cutler not so much.

      Another issue, particularly for guys with small heads, is that a big neck and upper body makes them look almost retarded. Not

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  • http://www.nuancenews.com Nuance News

    The whiny feminists that say muscles are scary really equate it to body building and the guy who spends all his time in the gym. the one who has the body & the attitude but can’t quite construct a full sentence in proper English, a neanderthal dumbass with aesthetics as the only thing they bring to the picture. When you have a guy who has a great build, shows status, has good social skills & game, and takes control of the situation, every one of those panties will be soaked in the room. The skinny betas & chubby dudes will be left holding all the girls drinks. It’s not just about size, it’s how you use it.

  • lightersix

    Heres the truth — girls like muscular guys, of course…but…

    Obsessing about ideal bodytype is just mental masturbation. Work with your genetics. As D&P said, don’t be so skinny the wind will blow you over, keep a rather low bodyfat percentage…and most girls will find your body attractive. Work out hard on the basic compound lifts, focusing on strength rather than looks. Eat well, and a lot if you are skinny.

    Starting Strength is an excellent recommendation. Great for smalI guys. I only weigh 152 at 5’10″, but the confidence from having a near 1000 total squat, bench and deadlift is a huge inner game boon.

    The vain aesthetic-focused types in the gym reveal themselves in their vanity, going to the gym with gelled hair, flexing in the mirror, etc. They do it all for women. Don’t be one of them. Work out for YOU.

    Set new strength PR’s. Squatting a bit over twice my bodyweight for reps, I get puzzled looks from the smith machine and lateral raise obsessed faggots…but instant respect from the truly strong guys who know whats up…big guys who work as bouncers.

    As for ideals…and being hyooge, check this out.

    http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/comm/haselton/webdocs/frederickbodyimage.pdf

    TLDR version — Scroll down and look at the pictures. The 4th or 5th image is what you should shoot for, and is also realistically attainable for most guys.

  • John

    Like most game blog posts, this one assumes that women are attracted to more “alpha” characteristics. But what do the bodybuilding blogs say?

    I hate to bust your bubble lil’ buddy, but women don’t give a shit beyond a guy looking reasonably fit. Lower than 10-12% body fat won’t make an ounce of a difference. If women is your main motivation for dieting, don’t bother getting shredded. Women have similar delusions in terms of thinking men like them super-skinny.

    I don’t doubt there is something to the whole alpha/beta thing, but the effect isn’t as strong as it’s made out to be, I suspect.

    • John
    • Therapsid

      It’s true man. I’m not a young man, been around and I’ve seen both personally and second-hand. Being ripped is not the be-and-end-all of game. Not even close.

      As often as not, a slim out of shape dude with a devil may care attitude will get the SNL while the swole guys who put in umpteen hours in the gym get no more ass or less.

      Yeah being ripped helps *on balance*. But fuck it, to be clear: if your game ain’t tight already and you’re not getting girls same night do not bother to lift and workout unless you’re doing it 100% for yourself. Because it’s damn near irrelevant to improving your odds with women.

      • conhecimento_oculto

        I don’t think I have the same age experience as you, but It’s kind of exactly what I have been noticing after some years…

  • krautz

    I think it’s like guys saying they don’t like girls with makeup, but what they’re really thinking is they don’t like girls who do it badly or use it like face paint. Or guys who say they don’t like big tits, when they’re thinking of huge cartoon sized porn start tits, not typical big tits.

    Similarly with those girls who say they don’t like guys with muscles, they’re thinking of those guys that make it cartoonish. Like mr.balloon animal vs typical ripped guy:

    http://weknowmemes.com/2012/12/they-said-i-could-be-anything-so-i-became-a-balloon-animal/

  • MacDamon

    The song has very lazy lyrics…not a bad message mind you

  • Ed

    At the end of the day most blokes who are buff would take being buff over not being buff any day regardless of chicks. An ideal situation would be to be in a social circle with other buff people. If more women worked out the way men did, it would be better.

  • Markus

    I think this is similar to saying that All Men Like Big Breasts. Many men will tell you that they prefer smaller breasts or that they are in fact “ass-men” and don’t care for breasts. But in the presence of a large breasted woman (who is also at least somewhat attractive overall); just about all men will be drawn to stare at the woman’s breasts with a magnetic attraction that is hard to resist. The curiousity to touch and fondle them is most certainly there no matter the man.

  • Jay

    Bench press, squats, dead lifts, and military press- that’s about all most people really need. Keeps the focus on the main muscle groups, and also releases the most testosterone- one of the main reasons to work out. I also do sprints as well.

    Fuel with chicken breast, vegetables, tuna, and protein shakes. No white foods(rice, bread, milk, etc) or sugars. Life can be simple.

    • Mina

      Don’t forget the dreaded bent rows w barbell. They are like doing penance for looking so good.

    • I-Like-Milk

      I’m curious, why no white foods? I mean man, I love me some chocolate milk, milk + cocoa, yogurt and I like rice (esp. rice + curry + chicken).
      I don’t eat any kind of junk food and sweets, except for some occasional (but VERY rarily) chilli flavoured potato chips. Anyway, passing on milk products and rice would be a torture for me, why is that so important?

  • Candide

    Two words response to girls saying eeww to muscles:

    Magic Mike.

    That was such a box office bomb because women don’t like muscles, correct?

  • Ed

    It made $165 million and was classed as a success. Ever since Marky Mark who was the original Calvin Klein underwear model and frontman for the Funky Bunch, the media has gone from showing images of thin men to muscular and more and more men are hitting gyms in the Angosphere. Sales of supplements and the online availability of steroids and pro-hormones is seeing an explosion in bodybuilding. It would be realistic to predict that steroid use will become almost normal within the next decade.

  • http://www.raulfelix.com Raul Felix

    I don’t know why anybody believed this myth in the first place. I don’t have a body builder physique, but I have a nice, muscular body that I’ve kept up since I’ve been in high school because I played football and then joined the military and still keep up right now into my life. I’ve always noticed girls wanting me to flex and being really happy when they saw me naked and saw my flat stomach (though I don’t have a six pack.) Having a muscular body just has too many benefits to ignore.

  • elDuro

    Like many things muscle building is subject to the law of diminishing returns…

    Everyone should workout to be in good shape but at some level the necessary efforts simply outweigh the possible gains…

  • http://www.AroundtheWorldin80Jobs.com Turner

    Solid Bro.

    Good video choice too. I unfortunately go in and out of motivation. I am halfway through Arnolds books as per Roosh rec and it is pretty fucking motivating, esp. when you want to see a winning mindset. The mental attitude obtain through working out alone is worth it. And the few times when I was really in shape, I do remember girls looking with an extra second of glare. Nice. Keep it up.

  • http://www.raulfelix.com Raul Felix

    This is a perfect example of where you want to be. You don’t need to be a body builder. Just have a muscular physique. Check out the response from the girls when they are asked which they like better. B wins overwhelmingly. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=319861971456579&set=pb.190385971070847.-2207520000.1357468144&type=3&theater

    • Mina

      They needed a C right between A and B (but a little closer to A than B.)
      I bet a C would have gotten even more votes than B.

  • http://www.percyruxman.com Ruxman

    I take the trash out shirtless. That line has stuck with me, good stuff.

  • pirihuora

    A lot of it is because girls don’t really always get what “muscular” means. I don’t really see nearly any woman saying that Brad Pitt is too muscular. When they say they don’t like muscular men they mean Mr. Olympia contestants or guys with necks wider than their heads.

    And of course, there’s outliers in everything. Anorexics, fatty lovers, and so on… Tastes vary but there’s no point in comforting yourself in that some weird girl somewhere might fancy your unhealthy body.

  • numbnuts

    Tuthmosis that’s like saying every guy likes big tits, so fucking what. I’m sure skinny male models do just fine for chicks.

    You really need to broaden your horizons and get out of hicksville

  • CQ

    Lift for you, not for women.

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  • Gabriel

    Woman care about muscles because they are told by the media muscles are an alpha trait. Being buffed as an alpha trait is a part of the male gay culture that has gone mainstream. Male gays find muscled bodies desirable because they are men so they are visually oriented and interested in the pleasure they can get from their partners bodies. Females are mostly interested in what you can do for them in bed, they expect you to be the fucker not the fucked.

    30 years ago guys interested in body aesthetics and dieting were qualified as pussies because body aesthetics and dieting for looks were considered extremelly femenine activities (they are!)

    In fact today even when you have to look buff you must not tell the girl you are into dieting because you want your body to be muscular and lean, because if you do that you are for a really long night of just jacking off after she laughs on your face.

    • conhecimento_oculto

      I agree bro

    • conhecimento_oculto

      And the sole fact that this is a new, modern trend totaly gives it away as suspicious shit

  • http://www.facebook.com/Ommin202 Colton Hornstein

    Are you me? This is my exact story, right down to the sex-tape realization :|

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  • Sally

    all girls like guys who are toned and in good shape. but getting too muscular will turn some girls off. it says to me: spends all his time in the gym and probably has no brains/we probably don’t share interests if his only interest is the gym/tries too hard to impress people, namely other women. It’s not that it doesn’t look good, its just a physical demonstration of your priorities. If you can manage to be both muscular and interesting at the same time, more power to you. But it’s rare. Just like girls that are very tan, have impeccable make-up, and nice cleavage rarely make for great conversation. Same concept. Their priority is their appearance and attracting meathead muscular guys.

  • Steve

    You are all so stupid its unbeliveable. Bunch of wanabe shrinks. Everyones opinion counts, and the problem half of you have is when you are not at the gym youre on forums like this, looking for other people to make you feel better about your selfs, and have friends equally as stupid as you and therefor have the same views, thats not the same as everyone woman wants this or that.

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